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I am taking the EET lateral class right now and wanted to share my opinion of the class.  So far the class has been extremely informative, and very professional.  The sessions are clear and the class notes that are provided are priceless.  These class notes that are far better than anything that I received in school (including grad school) and they include several key diagrams from the code so that flipping through your code in the exam will not be required.  Each class has had several "quizzes" that test your knowledge and allow for you to get feedback on working out problems during the class.   There are even more example problems at the back of each chapter  (for example: 58 different six minute problems available to work through for seismic load analysis alone).  

I do not know if you can still sign up for this class but if you can, I would HIGHLY recommend it. 

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I am troubled by several people trying to cut out EET (or any other course vendor) by buying used notes and/or sharing registrations. As licensed engineers, we are obligated to not only obey the laws, but also conduct ourselves in an ethical manner. Not only is it important to respect copyright laws, but we should also consider the tremendous amount of time and effort that these people put into the course material and running these courses. Would you not be upset if a client decided to not pay you for your expertise and work? I think that paying $1,100 for 75+ hours of lectures (< $15/hour) is extremely reasonable. If the cost is too much, maybe consider asking your firm to pitch in. FWIIW: I am not associated with EET, but I have found their classes to be excellent. 

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1 hour ago, MostlyCivil said:

I am troubled by several people trying to cut out EET (or any other course vendor) by buying used notes and/or sharing registrations. As licensed engineers, we are obligated to not only obey the laws, but also conduct ourselves in an ethical manner. Not only is it important to respect copyright laws, but we should also consider the tremendous amount of time and effort that these people put into the course material and running these courses. Would you not be upset if a client decided to not pay you for your expertise and work? I think that paying $1,100 for 75+ hours of lectures (< $15/hour) is extremely reasonable. If the cost is too much, maybe consider asking your firm to pitch in. FWIIW: I am not associated with EET, but I have found their classes to be excellent. 

I suppose you never purchased a used:

- car

- book

- furniture

- video game

- movie

- phone

- computer

before?

 

no one mentioned anything that would violate copyright laws

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2 hours ago, MostlyCivil said:

I am troubled by several people trying to cut out EET (or any other course vendor) by buying used notes and/or sharing registrations. As licensed engineers, we are obligated to not only obey the laws, but also conduct ourselves in an ethical manner. Not only is it important to respect copyright laws, but we should also consider the tremendous amount of time and effort that these people put into the course material and running these courses. Would you not be upset if a client decided to not pay you for your expertise and work? I think that paying $1,100 for 75+ hours of lectures (< $15/hour) is extremely reasonable. If the cost is too much, maybe consider asking your firm to pitch in. FWIIW: I am not associated with EET, but I have found their classes to be excellent. 

 

38 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I suppose you never purchased a used:

- car

- book

- furniture

- video game

- movie

- phone

- computer

before?

 

no one mentioned anything that would violate copyright laws

I agree with Hugh Jass. By buying second hand notes or going halves on a registration you are not doing anything unethical. The person buying the notes and/or half a registration understands they are not getting the full experience of the course which translates to paying a fraction of the cost. It's no different from buying any other product second hand. If I had EET notes I would even give them away for free. They are my notes upon purchase and I have the right to do with them as I see fit. Now if you make multiple copies of notes and give away for free/sell then that's unethical.

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44 minutes ago, Hugh Jass said:

I suppose you never purchased a used:

- car

- book

- furniture

- video game

- movie

- phone

- computer

before?

 

no one mentioned anything that would violate copyright laws

I have to admit, I never thought of it that way. :-) 

2 hours ago, MostlyCivil said:

I am troubled by several people trying to cut out EET (or any other course vendor) by buying used notes and/or sharing registrations. As licensed engineers, we are obligated to not only obey the laws, but also conduct ourselves in an ethical manner. Not only is it important to respect copyright laws, but we should also consider the tremendous amount of time and effort that these people put into the course material and running these courses. Would you not be upset if a client decided to not pay you for your expertise and work? I think that paying $1,100 for 75+ hours of lectures (< $15/hour) is extremely reasonable. If the cost is too much, maybe consider asking your firm to pitch in. FWIIW: I am not associated with EET, but I have found their classes to be excellent. 

I have to mention, having taken EET, I'v never ran into a more cooperative bunch before. They are fantastic at answering your questions and have a lot of patience. The learning environment in their classes is great! 

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1 hour ago, StandardPractice said:

 

 

I agree with Hugh Jass. By buying second hand notes or going halves on a registration you are not doing anything unethical. The person buying the notes and/or half a registration understands they are not getting the full experience of the course which translates to paying a fraction of the cost. It's no different from buying any other product second hand. If I had EET notes I would even give them away for free. They are my notes upon purchase and I have the right to do with them as I see fit. Now if you make multiple copies of notes and give away for free/sell then that's unethical.

 

yeah, they don't even respond to any inquiries. I asked how much cross over is between the vertical and lateral courses. No reply.

I asked if they would combine both courses for a lower price. No reply.

 

Honestly, since many people taking the SE don't even need it, I think EET would get MORE registrations since the people who wanna go halfsies would not have signed up full price at all.

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Even if it's not a copyright or ethical question, it's definitely a question of morals. Either way the test is going to be tough. Then waiting for your results will test your faith.

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1 hour ago, SE_FL said:

Even if it's not a copyright or ethical question, it's definitely a question of morals. Either way the test is going to be tough. Then waiting for your results will test your faith.

ethics -  a set of moral principles

morals - of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior

 

 

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Regarding the EET SE Review courses: The content of materials keenly paralleled the Vertical and Lateral Exams enabling me to accurately anticipate many of the questions. The test-taking strategies supported an efficient and effective means of approaching the exams. The EET SE courses are an extraordinary resource and an invaluable tool that was instrumental in my successful passing of the exams.

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18 hours ago, eng619 said:

Regarding the EET SE Review courses: The content of materials keenly paralleled the Vertical and Lateral Exams enabling me to accurately anticipate many of the questions. The test-taking strategies supported an efficient and effective means of approaching the exams. The EET SE courses are an extraordinary resource and an invaluable tool that was instrumental in my successful passing of the exams.

Thanks for your review of them! I'm keenly considering taking EET's SE courses in a few years' time when I will take the SE exam. I took their classes for the PE civil structural exam, and really thought they were worth the time and money, so it's great to hear that the SE ones are so valuable as well.

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I would like to share my experience with the class. After failing SE Lateral Bridges without a review class, I decided to sign up for EET Lateral. Class material and instructors are outstanding. Always willing help you out. I followed class as it was in schedule, it does get too much if you are working full time but its worth it. There were plenty of practice problems, mini exams, full exam on top of lectures. Practice and timing yourself is key for test but studying correct stuff is equally important. I would totally recommend this class for any one doing bridges and having hard time passing lateral.

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I took the EET vertical loads review course for the Oct 2017 exam, and was extremely happy with all elements of the class. The class notes that are provided are a great study tool, and are a huge time savings during the exam. I referenced the EET class notes almost exclusively during the exam. Both Foued and Ahmed are excellent teachers with a strong academic and practical knowledge of the material. Because of the fantastic review provided by EET, the exam day was great, and I felt well prepared for the material. The best part was the passing notification! I would highly recommend this course.

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anyone looking to sell the EET class notes?

 

looking at the material would definitely help me decide whether taking the course is worth it

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Here is another shout out for the EET SE Classes!  I took the vertical and lateral classes and both were great.  I actually took the classes and exams (Bridge Depth) separately and that worked for me.  After taking the EET vertical class and passing the exam, there was no question that I would take the EET lateral class as well.  The classes provided a lot of homework problems, mini quizzes, and a practice exam for each class.  The instructors did an excellent job of teaching/reviewing the material, and were available to answer questions in and outside of class.  They were extremely knowledgeable, responsive, encouraging and motivating.  The notes were very organized and along with the practice problems were my primary resource.  When I went into the exams, I felt prepared.  I am ecstatic to say that I have passed both the vertical and lateral now.  The classes were a huge help in passing these exams.  I would highly recommend taking the EET courses. 

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Anyone looking for SE review class, I would recommend EET. I haven’t taken any other review classes for comparison but based on my experience at EET it is a great review program. I took the vertical review and I will definitely get the lateral next. The review material is priceless both as a refresher and as a tool during the exam. The instructors, Dr. Zayati and Dr. Ibrahim, are both knowledgeable, helpful and encouraging.  You can ask questions anytime, lots of homework and a practice exam. But of course, you really need to study the material, do all the mini-exams, homework and burn the candle at both ends. Best wishes to all!

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I decided to enroll in a refresher course for the examination in January. I selected EET finally. There were two instructors in the class. They both are very knowledgeable and worked so hard in teaching. The class topics were awesome which covered almost 99% questions in the exam. The most useful are the Summary notes they provided for each topic (Steel, Wood, Masonry, Reinforced concrete, wind, and seismic). I could just look up the summary notes for answers without searching through books in the exam. So, I completed answering all questions in time in both morning part and afternoon part. The class provided right amount of home works to practice. There were office hours (around 3 hrs) once a week and all your questions got answered. Before the examination, a simulated exam was conducted. it generally was harder than the real one because the instructors want to review all possible topics in the real exam through the simulated exam. The mistakes in the simulated exam and some key points were identified and corrected by the instructors.

So, for anyone who wants to refresh to take SE exam, I strongly recommend EET SE refreshing course and especially the live classes.

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The EET review course really helped me to prepare for the SE Lateral (Buildings) exam, which I took and passed this spring. I decided to sign up for a review course after my first attempt of taking the exam in April 2017, which I failed without taking review classes. I selected EET based on good reviews on this forum and have been very satisfied with my choice. After taking the course, I can confirm all good things said by others about the EET SE review courses.

Dr. Ahmed Ibrahim and Dr. Foued Zayati are very knowledgeable, efficient and responsive instructors. They created an outstanding binder with class notes, which contain the most important information related to all topics covered in the exam. The notes were very useful in preparation for the exam and saved me a lot of time during the exam. Many examples and practice problems were provided, as well as detailed descriptions of the design processes for the most common lateral force resisting systems, which were priceless in the afternoon portion of the exam. The mini exams for every topic and the final simulation exam were also helpful. The lectures were very good. I have learned a lot from them.

I highly recommend EET for the SE review courses. Taking them will significantly increase your chances of passing the SE exams. 

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I’m thinking about signing up for both vertical and lateral with EET. First time taker here. For those of who had experience with EET, do you recommend one over the other option between the live webinar and on demand? Your kind response would be much appreciated. 

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I took the EET course for both vertical (last fall) and lateral (this spring), and passed each exam. I would absolutely recommend using EET, as the course is fantastic in many ways. Dr. Ibrahim and Dr. Zayati provide a great balance between depth and breadth. Their study plan and course notes provide a much needed focus on particular topics in an exam that I felt covered such a broad range of topics that I would've been much less efficient trying to study independently.

Another great benefit to EET is that the live webinar and on demand are covered under the same price - and you can switch back and forth as your schedule allows. Thus, if you're able to sit in on the live webinars, you'll be able to ask questions in real time. If you're not able to make the live webinar times, you can watch on demand, and always are able to email them with any questions - and you'll get a fast and articulate response. Also, they hold office hours each week as well that you can join, regardless if you typically watch the course on demand.

I can't recommend EET enough. For me, it made the SE exams much more comfortable - where I felt confident and not stressed out - before, during, and after the exam.

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@ Steevwon,

To take live webinar is my recommendation. You can talk with the instructors plus you have the access to the recorded classes in case you missed one.

 

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I wanted to add to the recommendations for the EET course!  It was by far the best learning experience I've had.  

I took the School of PE courses for both vertical and lateral for my first attempt at the exam in April 2017.  I thought the courses were decent.  Along with supplemental studying, the SoPE courses got me to the "borderline" point and I failed vertical (barely - 27/40, A, A, A, U) passed lateral (likely also barely).

I then took the EET vertical course for my second attempt at the exam.  The EET course was far, far superior!  I thought the course prepared me incredibly well, and I felt confident both going into and coming out of the exam.  (Of course that confidence wore off after 2 months of waiting for results and I was suddenly very worried about results, but I think that's how it goes for most people.)  I was able to pass the vertical exam this past April (2018) despite the 18% pass rate for repeat takers. 

I think the biggest item that sets the EET course apart is the amount of quality practice problems you receive - especially since there aren't a ton of practice exams out there.  EET provides hundreds of HW problems, several mini-exams, and a full length practice exam.  I supplemented the EET course only with additional long answer problems from the two available practice exams.

I thought the EET course was very intense and time consuming. I was able to keep up with the vertical course, but I am curious if anyone else has had success trying to keep up with both the vertical and lateral courses at the same time.  If so, what was your approach/did you start early with on-demand?

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Add me to the list of satisfied EET customers! After a second close but unsuccessful attempt at the building lateral exam I decided to bite the bullet and shell out the money for a review course to try getting me over the hump. 

 

As others have stated, there are more than enough practice problems included (something that I'd had trouble finding previously) and also very detailed lectures. One of the great things about this course is if a lecture is running long they will just schedule an additional lecture so no material is breezed over. This resulted in some weeks being much longer than expected but this was a good problem to have. Both instructors are incredibly knowledgeble on the subject matter and are always available to answer questions and provide feeback. 

 

I would 100% recommend this course to anyone taking the test. Although I brought some study material from previous attempts, all I used on test day was the course binder and the required references. 

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