Did anyone got 52 in transportation and failed?

haali · Jun 2, 2016

Anyone failed the April civil transportation with a 52 score?

Clemson CE P.E. · Jun 3, 2016

I can all but guarantee you that a 52 was a failing score.

haali · Jun 3, 2016

You'll be surprised!

Clemson CE P.E. · Jun 3, 2016

haali said:
You'll be surprised!

Not really. The morning session was too easy for the passing score to be a 65%. Why so obsessed with the highest failing score anyhow? If anyone can get the cut score, it would be @Baconator, ask him.

DuckFlats · Jun 3, 2016

Yea that seems low for a test that didn't seem very hard.

Clemson CE P.E. · Jun 3, 2016

DuckFlats said:
Yea that seems low for a test that didn't seem very hard.

agreed. I would bet it's far more likely the cut score was 58-60 rather than 52-54.

DuckFlats · Jun 3, 2016

Yea I am guessing around a 70% or higher.

haali · Jun 3, 2016

All guess so far. No firm answer!

DuckFlats · Jun 3, 2016

What difference does it make? It's a pass or fail test.

matt267 PE · Jun 3, 2016

haali said:
All guess so far. No firm answer!

That sums up my AM portion of the October 2015 exam.

DummyCivilEng · Jun 3, 2016

Clemson CE said:
agreed. I would bet it's far more likely the cut score was 58-60 rather than 52-54.

If everybody gets a 100% would they still fail some?

jijir83 · Jun 4, 2016

DummyCivilEng said:
If everybody gets a 100% would they still fail some?

Sarcasm right? I don't read them very well. haha!

I'm thinking they wouldn't be able to though. However, I'm thinking if a number of people got 80/80 and a number had 79/80, they would fail those with that 79/80.

Co-worker got 56/80 with a geotech afternoon (70%) and a number of people on this board reported 57/80 but failed.

DuckFlats said:
What difference does it make? It's a pass or fail test.

Human behavior combined with engineer compulsion for data evaluation. Somehow that process of finding out helps you make it through the end of the infuriating experience. So, it makes a difference. "How close was I?", "Should I get a recount?"... That's usually what's behind these kinds of questions. Finding out that you were 1 point from the passing score is demoralizing but gives you the boost in the end that you weren't that far off compared to the bulk of your peers. Finding out that you were 10 questions from passing, is even more demoralizing but in the end it's good to know that you really have to work much harder to get over the curve next time.

Either way, it's psychological. Therefore, I shall not judge.

Clemson CE P.E. · Jun 4, 2016

DummyCivilEng said:
If everybody gets a 100% would they still fail some?

If a frog had wings would he bump his ass when he jumped?

TWJ PE · Jun 4, 2016

jijir83 said:
Sarcasm right? I don't read them very well. haha!

I'm thinking they wouldn't be able to though. However, I'm thinking if a number of people got 80/80 and a number had 79/80, they would fail those with that 79/80.

Co-worker got 56/80 with a geotech afternoon (70%) and a number of people on this board reported 57/80 but failed.

Human behavior combined with engineer compulsion for data evaluation. Somehow that process of finding out helps you make it through the end of the infuriating experience. So, it makes a difference. "How close was I?", "Should I get a recount?"... That's usually what's behind these kinds of questions. Finding out that you were 1 point from the passing score is demoralizing but gives you the boost in the end that you weren't that far off compared to the bulk of your peers. Finding out that you were 10 questions from passing, is even more demoralizing but in the end it's good to know that you really have to work much harder to get over the curve next time.

Either way, it's psychological. Therefore, I shall not judge.

The answer is no - all would pass.

"NCEES scores each exam with no predetermined percentage of examinees that should pass or fail."

DummyCivilEng · Jun 4, 2016

Clemson CE said:
If a frog had wings would he bump his ass when he jumped?

The probability of every person getting 100% is higher than that of frog having wings.

Clemson CE P.E. · Jun 6, 2016

DummyCivilEng said:
The probability of every person getting 100% is higher than that of frog having wings.

Are you sure about that? evolution has the benefit of continuing as long as there are frogs. The possibility of every person getting 100% is dependant on how long NCEES is the administering party. That said, your question was idiotic to begin with, thus you will get idiotic responses.

DummyCivilEng · Jun 7, 2016

Clemson CE said:
Are you sure about that? evolution has the benefit of continuing as long as there are frogs. The possibility of every person getting 100% is dependant on how long NCEES is the administering party. That said, your question was idiotic to begin with, thus you will get idiotic responses.

Frogs would become extinct first before they evolve into flying creatures because of civil engineering activities.

Clemson CE P.E. · Jun 7, 2016

RBHeadge PE · Jun 7, 2016

DummyCivilEng said:
The probability of every person getting 100% is higher than that of frog having wings.

True. But the opposite will be true once Genetic Engineering comes out of its infancy.

knight1fox3 · Jun 7, 2016

rbheadge said:
True. But the opposite will be true once Genetic Engineering comes out of its infancy.

But will they be required to take the FE & PE exams?

:dunno:

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