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On 1/30/2019 at 9:49 AM, JCT.Cons. said:

Yes I did, and my name and license number are there. However, it expires June 2019. This year. Kind of weird.

Out of curiosity what materials did you use for surveying? If you took per test plan 2018,

What I believe happened is that is  system  messed up, they added  your name to the “New System “ matrix, I.e: the candidates who have PASS for surveying and seismic next to their names become license engineer, because per new system you can’t sit to take seismic and surveying without passing the 8hours and your the application got approved by the board. This is the only logical explanation. 

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15 hours ago, vip-eng said:

Out of curiosity what materials did you use for surveying? If you took per test plan 2018,

What I believe happened is that is messed up, they added  your name to the “New System “ mattrix, I.e: the candidates who have PASS for surveying and seismic next to their names become license engineer, because per new system you can’t sit to take seismic and surveying without passing the 8hours and your the application got approved by the board. This is the only logic explanation. 

I took an 18-hour seminar with John Pavlik, held in Irvine CA by the Irvine Institute of Technology. Here's the link http://irvine-institute.org/seismic-principles-spring-schedule-2018/

Really great course, he also does it live if you live far. He assigns homework and problems you should do before the next lecture. The classes alone, his manual, and the Surveying Principles book by Cuomo is all I used.

And I think you're right, like you said, I got adopted into the new system.  

 

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On 1/30/2019 at 9:49 AM, JCT.Cons. said:

Yes I did, and my name and license number are there. However, it expires June 2019. This year. Kind of weird.

Sounds weird to me too. I agree with @vip-eng that it MAY be a system screw up, wherein it assumes that you have passed the national exam. However, the requirement to pass the national exam before being eligible to take the CA state exams is a fallacy. I was in constant touch with a senior licensing analyst from the board (a month ago) and she explained to me that taking and passing the national exam before the CA state exams  is a recommendation and NOT a requirement. In other words, if you meet the eligibility criteria (education, experience, etc.), and your application has been accepted by the board, you will receive the ATT. I know they make it seem like a requirement, and I was a victim of this very same misunderstanding, and had to pay the re-examination fee without having taken the state exam. 

Just hope it does not happen to anyone else. 

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21 hours ago, structural2552 said:

Sounds weird to me too. I agree with @vip-eng that it MAY be a system screw up, wherein it assumes that you have passed the national exam. However, the requirement to pass the national exam before being eligible to take the CA state exams is a fallacy. I was in constant touch with a senior licensing analyst from the board (a month ago) and she explained to me that taking and passing the national exam before the CA state exams  is a recommendation and NOT a requirement. In other words, if you meet the eligibility criteria (education, experience, etc.), and your application has been accepted by the board, you will receive the ATT. I know they make it seem like a requirement, and I was a victim of this very same misunderstanding, and had to pay the re-examination fee without having taken the state exam. 

Just hope it does not happen to anyone else. 

Hi, I got a bit confused towards the end of your comment. Basically, you passed both CA exams, but did not take/passthe 8-hour exam as well?

And you are correct, I have been reading and nowhere does it state that taking the 8-hour IS a requirement, rather, you "should" take it and pass it before you take the CA exams. Here's an excerpt from Steve Hiner's website (Seismic Review Course, which I highly recommend):

 

Beginning with the April 2018 exam, there is a NEW process for applying for licensure as a Civil Engineer in California. Candidates "should" pass the 8-hour NCEES Civil Engineering Principles & Practice (P&P) exam before submitting an application for licensure in California.

The following four parts need to be successfully completed to be licensed as a Civil Engineer in the State of California. You DO NOT need to pass all parts at the same time (i.e., each part may be passed separately from the other parts).

  • Part I: 8-hour NCEES Principles & Practice (P&P) Examination - administered on a Friday in mid-April and late October ("should" pass before applying to take Parts II, III and IV below)
  • Part II: California P.E. State Laws and Board Rules - Take Home Examination (submitted with application)
  • Part III: California Special Civil Engineering Surveying (CES) Examination - two and one-half hours in length, all multiple-choice (continuous testing by quarter)
  • Part IV: California Special Civil Seismic Principles (CSP) Examination - two and one-half hours in length, all multiple-choice (continuous testing by quarter)

 

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On ‎1‎/‎30‎/‎2019 at 11:46 AM, JCT.Cons. said:

Thanks. I will ask @CAPLS for an explanation. I will take the exam this upcoming April just in case. I am going to study for it this time. Funny how I was able to pass the two harder exams but not the "easier" one. 

I responded to your message.  Good plan and better this is resolved sooner rather than later.

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@JCT.Cons. is there a joke in there that I missed.. in what world is the 8-hour considered easier than Seismic and Survey -_-?

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2 hours ago, Stardust said:

@JCT.Cons. is there a joke in there that I missed.. in what world is the 8-hour considered easier than Seismic and Survey -_-?

no joke

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45 minutes ago, JCT.Cons. said:

no joke

Your openness to communicate on this is commendable.  If you can please respond to my IM, we can get this resolved sooner rather than later.

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30 minutes ago, vip-eng said:

2018 California State Civil Examination Stats 

Source: https://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/about_us/meetings/materials/20190221_meeting_materials.pdf

Pretty scary passing numbers for both tests if I am being honest. 

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I didn't need to see this with my exams around the corner lol

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Did anyone get their authorization for re-examination for the 2nd quarter? Applied for re-exam in January and haven't heard anything since. 

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1 hour ago, wheresmyresults said:

Did anyone get their authorization for re-examination for the 2nd quarter? Applied for re-exam in January and haven't heard anything since. 

may be @CAPLS can help you with this?

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3 hours ago, wheresmyresults said:

Did anyone get their authorization for re-examination for the 2nd quarter? Applied for re-exam in January and haven't heard anything since. 

Authorization to schedule exams California Civil exams during the 2nd quarter (April-June) will be sent out near the end of March to all eligible candidates.  And then a follow up notice will be sent to capture any remaining eligible candidates shortly early into the 2nd quarter.

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On 1/31/2019 at 10:55 AM, JCT.Cons. said:

I took an 18-hour seminar with John Pavlik, held in Irvine CA by the Irvine Institute of Technology. Here's the link http://irvine-institute.org/seismic-principles-spring-schedule-2018/

Really great course, he also does it live if you live far. He assigns homework and problems you should do before the next lecture. The classes alone, his manual, and the Surveying Principles book by Cuomo is all I used.

And I think you're right, like you said, I got adopted into the new system.  

 

Is this course being offered again for 2019?

I checked the schedule, but it still shows the 2018 schedule. 

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Hello.  Is School of PE good courses to take for the CA Surveying and seismic?  Or should I use another?  Thank you.

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To be polite.

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1 hour ago, MsCivilEngineer said:

Hello.  Is School of PE good courses to take for the CA Surveying and seismic?  Or should I use another?  Thank you.

SoPE Seismic was okay, but I shoulda spent the money on the Hiner class the first try.. SoPE Survey is a hell no!

TL;DR No.

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On 2/15/2019 at 4:17 PM, vip-eng said:

2018 California State Civil Examination Stats 

Source: https://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/about_us/meetings/materials/20190221_meeting_materials.pdf

Pretty scary passing numbers for both tests if I am being honest. 

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Worst month to take it is the last month of the quarter (higher number of people, but lowest pass rate). Guess in March we are SOL!

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Out of curiosity what the difference between the stamp that says Licensed professional engineer and Registered Professional Engineer? In the congratulation e-mail I got from the board, the board attached a pdf that in includes my stamp sample and says “ Licensed Professional Engineer “ and based on that I ordered my physical stamp, however, my boss stamp says “ Registered Professional Engineer “ . Wondering if there is any difference.   

@CAPLS

https://www.pestamps.com/product/california-engineer/

 

 

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So am I reading the new CA application process correctly:

  • You can take the 8-hour as soon as you graduate
  • You need to pass the 8-hour exam(maybe?) and have the qualifying experience to apply then sit for the CA specific exams (60 day approval+scheduling) and take home ethics
  • Pass all the exams, complete the experience, and pay all your fees
  • ?????
  • Licensure

in other words, I have to wait to finish my last year of experience before I can attempt the two state exams (I just passed the 8-hour).

The language on the Board website is fairly clear.. I'm just hoping someone knows of a method to take them sooner. 

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Hi all,

I'm looking to take review courses for CA Seismic & CA Surveying. I took EET's course for the 8 hour exam and passed (transportation). Although the lecture/materials were good, the only thing I wish that the on-demand version had was the ability to speed up videos. They use Adobe Connect so this function wasn't available. I found it a pain to listen through the lectures at normal speed especially if reviewing/rewatching a specific part.

Can anyone provide some details about the on-demand versions of the several different review courses that you have personally tried? (Quality instruction, up to date materials, most importantly THE ABILITY TO SPEED UP THE VIDEOS).

I would appreciate it so much.

Best of luck to all with your careers!

 -AM

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Hi everyone

 

I have brand new 3 exam EET CBT book if anyone is interested. New never used. 50 dollars. thanks

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On ‎5‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 10:11 PM, vip-eng said:

Out of curiosity what the difference between the stamp that says Licensed professional engineer and Registered Professional Engineer? In the congratulation e-mail I got from the board, the board attached a pdf that in includes my stamp sample and says “ Licensed Professional Engineer “ and based on that I ordered my physical stamp, however, my boss stamp says “ Registered Professional Engineer “ . Wondering if there is any difference.   

@CAPLS

https://www.pestamps.com/product/california-engineer/

 

 

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The term "registered" is an outdated term.  The Board began moving towards "Licensed" or simply "Professional Engineer" or "(insert discipline here) Engineer" over a decade ago.  Not all of the laws reflect this change because it is simply too cumbersome and potentially troublesome to have the Legislature initiate a bill just to do that so changes get made as opportunities arise.  It's my experience that more licensees now use the term "Professional Engineer".

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On 5/24/2019 at 9:17 AM, CAPLS said:

The term "registered" is an outdated term.  The Board began moving towards "Licensed" or simply "Professional Engineer" or "(insert discipline here) Engineer" over a decade ago.  Not all of the laws reflect this change because it is simply too cumbersome and potentially troublesome to have the Legislature initiate a bill just to do that so changes get made as opportunities arise.  It's my experience that more licensees now use the term "Professional Engineer".

Got it! Thank you for the clarification. 

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