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Unit is $800 and install,permit(fuck that) and carry away was another $900. A little less if I can wait till Thursday - no thanks!

If I could find one the exact height as my old one I could just unscrew it from the old one and not need to cut the pipe but so far no such luck...

And I have used shark bites for some things before but I think for this I’d just prefer to have a solid connection..

I left it draining before I went shopping cause apparently that takes a while...

The thought has occurred to me I can just put all of this on the HD card and pay it off over 12 months for 0 % interest...

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Can you shim it up off the floor to match the old height?

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Making sweat joints is actually pretty easy.  just need to clean it use some flux and assemble.  heat the pipe way from the joint and then touch the solder to the joint until it sucks it in.  Wipe and done.  Is the $900 from a local plumber?  I'd try a few....seems high.  Sounds to me like the guy is busy and really doesn't want to bother with it.

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Supe - Looks like my size is shorter and fatter than my old one so I have to add pipe, which is actually better..

MA- yeah called several, all are about in that price range and none will do it on the sly without a permit - apparently I need a new overflow tank or some other BS new code.. These people are borderline criminals..

So I am doing this myself, going to use shark bites and then find someone to sweat in the pipe for me later, surprisingly those are OK by code, they should be for $35/EA  - just lugged it down the stairs to the basement... also not adding in the overflow tank...

 

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It really isn’t very hard at all...watch a few YouTube videos.  Whats there now?  Could you connect with braided steel lines?

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RG, are you talking about an expansion tank?  I had lots of trouble at my old house with valves leaking and the water heater temperature-pressure valve opening.  It turns out there was a check valve at my meter to prevent water being pushed back out into the city water system (I think they added it with the lawn sprinkler pump.)  When the water heater would kick on, the water would expand and have nowhere to go, so it would overpressure the system until something leaked.  I added a small expansion tank and the problem went away.

The tank wasn't very hard to add (but did require some soldering.)

 

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MP- yes that's what I meant. expansion tank,   I picked one up with a T- connector but don't know if I am going to put it in this go round just yet.

Jeb - If this happened on a Saturday Id be more up for trying out a new skill but just want to get this done before the wife gets home after working 3 - 14 hour shifts and is able to take a shower.   But if it ever warms up I am gonna do some practice runs, as I am adding a bar to my basement this summer and would like to not spend the money on shark bites for all that jazz..

But the tank comes with flex tubing at the top and makes it fairly easy to connect with the shark bites - and just as easy to sweat them later..  I thought I could use the same PVC for the air exhaust fan (or whatever that's called) but hopefully this is my 4th and final trip to the home depot today ;)

Now I just have to find a bridge to throw the old one off of ;) - j/k actually Home Depot here takes it back for free I just have to lug the god damn thing back up there..

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Took nearly all damn day-interrupted by “work” multiple times. Found someone on Nextdoor to sweat the pipe for $100 bucks (retired dude that does handyman stuff) but cheaper than the shark bites so I took them back....
now everyone is complaining the water is too hot.... damn dependents.....

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I put my old water heater by the curb and it was gone within 10 minutes... but I lived in redneckville and you live in a nice HOA-type area.

 

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Home depot let me recycle it with them for $35 bucks since I bought one from them, still seems like a scam but I just had my 16 year old haul the thing up there. I told him he could keep the $35 bucks as long as he didn't come back with the old water heater...

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So my next spring project is going to be to continue my backyard sprinkler repair – last year we spend a few hundred trying to find the leak so this time around I am just going to replace all of the lines from one control box that basically go to the backyard.

 

Last year I replaced one line and all 4 valves that come out of the box – so I have three lines or zones to do this year.

 

My yard is relatively small and has:

 

1 Zone for Drip Lines (trees around the perimeter) - Will do this last cause I don't think this one is the one leaking

3 zones for the perimeter sprinklers which water the grass (of which one of these I replaced last year but that didn't fix my pond situation)

1 zone for 3 heads in the middle of the yard to water where the perimeter sprinklers do not reach

 

From doing some window shopping I have some fairly cheap heads so I was hoping I could “upgrade” the heads along the perimeter and not replace the ones in the center?

 

General plan is to rent a ditch witch and get most of this done over a weekend..

 

Anything I need to plan or account for? Just trying to put some thoughts out there

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So I have recently purchased a new home and we will be closing in a couple weeks. I have been doing some research and think I may have convinced myself that I can install my own inground pool. I would be purchasing all the same materials the pros use online and likely going with an inground vinyl lined option. I want to do the dig, pool walls, plumbing, pump, and liner on my own. I would leave the finish concrete and electric (if any) to a pro.

Anyone attempted this or found a reason to talk themselves out of it? 

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assuming you have access and means to an excavator - the only problem is usually having someplace to get rid of the dirt & trucking it there - I did some re-grading of my backyard back in the day and it was much harder than I thought just getting rid of 15 Cy of dirt..

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21 hours ago, Road Guy said:

assuming you have access and means to an excavator - the only problem is usually having someplace to get rid of the dirt & trucking it there - I did some re-grading of my backyard back in the day and it was much harder than I thought just getting rid of 15 Cy of dirt..

I plan on renting an excavator and have truck/trailer to move it. Prelim pool dimensions put me at around 100 CY so even with some place to go with the spoil I'll still have to get a small dump truck to haul it.I think the typical load is about 14 CY. I'll have to price that out for sure. If I am not able to save at least 60% over what the installed price would be I don't see it being worth the hassle.

 

Other than that I feel pretty confident I can get it done. It will be a fun one an I'll probably regret attempting it halfway through but think I'm going to go for it. 

Pic is from the dist. website.

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On ‎6‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 9:24 AM, Jbone27 PE said:

I plan on renting an excavator and have truck/trailer to move it. Prelim pool dimensions put me at around 100 CY so even with some place to go with the spoil I'll still have to get a small dump truck to haul it.I think the typical load is about 14 CY. I'll have to price that out for sure. If I am not able to save at least 60% over what the installed price would be I don't see it being worth the hassle.

Put something on Craigslist or your local FB Marketplace.  You may get find someone looking for fill who would be willing to haul it away.

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So i bought what I call an "Obama" sprinkler system controller - Orbit B-Hyve - it came with a $100 rebate (received and I already cashed that check!)

I really like the set up as it can be controlled 100% by an app on your phone - It allowed me to easily turn zones off - which I was using to try and narrow down where my leak is - but my gripe is that it is dialed into your WIFI location and if any rain shows up at all then it turns the sprinkler off for 3 days, I am down with saving water but living in the mix of the desert / mountains / plains it can be a torrential downpour  a block away and dry as a bone at my house.  I tried changing my zip code on the controller to Las Vegas where it hardly rains and it auto changed it back to my actual zip code.

Gonna see if there is a way around this and if not will be taking it back to the home depot this weekend and getting another version that is more flexible.

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17 minutes ago, Road Guy said:

So i bought what I call an "Obama" sprinkler system controller - Orbit B-Hyve - it came with a $100 rebate (received and I already cashed that check!)

I really like the set up as it can be controlled 100% by an app on your phone - It allowed me to easily turn zones off - which I was using to try and narrow down where my leak is - but my gripe is that it is dialed into your WIFI location and if any rain shows up at all then it turns the sprinkler off for 3 days, I am down with saving water but living in the mix of the desert / mountains / plains it can be a torrential downpour  a block away and dry as a bone at my house.  I tried changing my zip code on the controller to Las Vegas where it hardly rains and it auto changed it back to my actual zip code.

Gonna see if there is a way around this and if not will be taking it back to the home depot this weekend and getting another version that is more flexible.

I’ve got my eyes on the Rainbird ST80-WIFI for mine; also allows control from your phone. You can attach an external rain sensor to it, so that the timer stops when it “actually” rains. Seems like there is the question of whether or not this is used in conjunction with the weather forecast, though.

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From the description of the ST80 it is similar to the Orbit - I cant seem to find a way around the #3 - It wont even test a zone if the "internets" say it rained in the last 24 hours -

I may just put my dinosaur back up.

Built from the existing feature rich Rain Bird ST8 platform, the ST8 2.0 offers faster connection speeds as well as multiple added features including: 1) EPA Watersense certification, which will allow customers to submit to municipalities for rebates; 2) better understanding of water usage through statistics/reporting capabilities; 3) automatic watering shutoff for forested rain; 4) improved custom manual watering from the Rain Bird app

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After spending too much time chasing down other problems with the sprinker controller, I basically just did a CTRL-ALT-DEl and now that God Damn thing seems to be working fine - I went ahead and entered my zip zode as Las Vegas, NV so hopefully that will end the auto shut off rain feature!

 

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have an appt monday afternoon with a landscape contractor to give the backyard a facelift.  The current concrete patio has settled towards the house and it pitted and etched and nasty.  we are thinking a new stamped concrete patio with a pergola sort of feature then a smaller flagstone type flat area behind the garage for a level surface for working on the mower etc... and replacing the mulch around the house with stone and maybe another landscape/planting in part of the old pool depression area.  nothing super fancy but the pictures of this company's work is pretty awesome.  

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I'm on vacation the week after next, when Mrs. Supe and Junior head to their annual 2 week trip to Vermont.  Finally going to get around to doing a decorative gravel surround for the fire pit.  It will likely take me about 2 yard of rock to do it.  I am praying that my gate post isn't anchored so that I can pull the aluminum fence out and drive the truck back there, but I have a feeling I'm screwed.  Not looking forward to shoveling and moving nearly 3 tons of stone via wheelbarrow.

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3 minutes ago, Road Guy said:

Sawzall? & reinstall?

If I can find a fence post insert that would let me rejoin the halves, 100%.

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our dishwasher died yesterday - went looking at replacements at lunch - when in the fuck did the average price of a dishwasher get into the $600 range?

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