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Please post your comments on why you think you passed the PE Civil-Construction and why you think you failed. We can help future PE takers prepare better. Any comment is appreciated. Good luck to those who are still waiting for the results.

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I am in Texas, and I failed with a 68 taking the Construction PM.

I have to say that the Testmasters class I attended prepared me poorly for Construction. The questions that we were told we'd see in the afternoon, and the study books we were told to use for practice problem purposes turned out to be almost entirely useless.

I need to know how to get good study materials from people who passed.

Out of my group of friends that did Testmasters, 3 out of 5 of us failed.

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I am in Texas, and I failed with a 68 taking the Construction PM.

I have to say that the Testmasters class I attended prepared me poorly for Construction. The questions that we were told we'd see in the afternoon, and the study books we were told to use for practice problem purposes turned out to be almost entirely useless.

I need to know how to get good study materials from people who passed.

Out of my group of friends that did Testmasters, 3 out of 5 of us failed.

I took Construction too and am still waiting for my result. The problem with construction is there are not that many reference materials available out there yet. NCEES has just came out with a full 40 sample problems and solutions for construction, that I wished came out before the Oct 2010 test, and not soon after.

Let us hear from other folks...

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I need help too on what materials to get for the Construction Module and how to prepare. I took Geo and was definitely my weakest field based on my diagnostics. I'm shifting to CM. thanks.

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I passed the Construction. Knowing your economics is key. Understanding depreciation and interest. Also, having the right reference books. I had my OSHA book, which made several of the questions really easy. I didn't have the ACI book, so I missed another really easy question. Understanding CPM schedules was important, there were at least 4 questions on these. And understanding basic structure design was helpful. I struggled on the SOE portion of the test, and it seemed like there were a lot of these questions. To me, the hardest part of the exam was the morning session, all those environmental and transportation questions. Thank god for the Civil Handbook.

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I passed the Construction. Knowing your economics is key. Understanding depreciation and interest. Also, having the right reference books. I had my OSHA book, which made several of the questions really easy. I didn't have the ACI book, so I missed another really easy question. Understanding CPM schedules was important, there were at least 4 questions on these. And understanding basic structure design was helpful. I struggled on the SOE portion of the test, and it seemed like there were a lot of these questions. To me, the hardest part of the exam was the morning session, all those environmental and transportation questions. Thank god for the Civil Handbook.

Congrats. So it will really help to have the recommended references. What is SOE and which Civil handbook specifically? Thanks.

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I am in Texas, and I failed with a 68 taking the Construction PM.

I have to say that the Testmasters class I attended prepared me poorly for Construction. The questions that we were told we'd see in the afternoon, and the study books we were told to use for practice problem purposes turned out to be almost entirely useless.

I need to know how to get good study materials from people who passed.

Out of my group of friends that did Testmasters, 3 out of 5 of us failed.

I took Construction too and am still waiting for my result. The problem with construction is there are not that many reference materials available out there yet. NCEES has just came out with a full 40 sample problems and solutions for construction, that I wished came out before the Oct 2010 test, and not soon after.

Let us hear from other folks...

I took the construction PM in FL. I scored 50/80 and failed I dis bad in water resources and "other topics" all other I scored in 75 to 80 percentile.

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I am in Texas, and I failed with a 68 taking the Construction PM.

I have to say that the Testmasters class I attended prepared me poorly for Construction. The questions that we were told we'd see in the afternoon, and the study books we were told to use for practice problem purposes turned out to be almost entirely useless.

I need to know how to get good study materials from people who passed.

Out of my group of friends that did Testmasters, 3 out of 5 of us failed.

I took Construction too and am still waiting for my result. The problem with construction is there are not that many reference materials available out there yet. NCEES has just came out with a full 40 sample problems and solutions for construction, that I wished came out before the Oct 2010 test, and not soon after.

Let us hear from other folks...

I took the construction PM in FL. I scored 50/80 and failed I dis bad in water resources and "other topics" all other I scored in 75 to 80 percentile.

If your score was 50/80, what percentage did you get?

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I passed Civil- Construction in CT. I tok the School of PE course and I totally recommend it. It was excellent for the morning portion of the exam, especially. Afternoon section is a little different, so you will have to prepare beyond the courses' scope. Know estimating! By that I mean, practice, practice, practice. Estimating in theroy is very straight forward, but the question I saw on the exam were definitely the most time consuming (and arguably he hardest).

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SOE is support of excavation. Soil Pressures and loads on coffercells and retaining walls for working in trenches. the Civil Handbook is a really thick book they made me buy in college that has every civil topic known to man in it. That plus the PE study guide and the black steel book got me through the morning.

I don't remember the estimating question. There were a few gimme's - calculating areas of forms and a couple rebar takeoffs.

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@Trussnorris:

I see. Thank you. I really need materials suggestions for Construction...

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Passed Civil- Construction 1st try

CERM & practice problems (primary reference)

Full printout of OSHA CFR (primary reference)

ACI 318 (primary ref)

NCEES practice problem book

ASD- WSD

Handbook of Rigging - Rossnagel

Properties of concrete- Neville

ASCE 7-05

Construction Module Guide - Rajapakse (pretty much useless during test w/o any index provided and poor layout, but read commentary ahead of time)

Did not bring, but could have used a good surveying & roadway curve reference book & basic hydraulics references

Know estimating quantities, cut/fill problems, soil properties, and timeline information 100% and will do fine; the practice prblems are MUCH more difficult than the actual test. I studied about 20-30 hrs for the test... but thats how I normally studied thru college

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Passed Civil- Construction 1st try

CERM & practice problems (primary reference)

Full printout of OSHA CFR (primary reference)

ACI 318 (primary ref)

NCEES practice problem book

ASD- WSD

Handbook of Rigging - Rossnagel

Properties of concrete- Neville

ASCE 7-05

Construction Module Guide - Rajapakse (pretty much useless during test w/o any index provided and poor layout, but read commentary ahead of time)

Did not bring, but could have used a good surveying & roadway curve reference book & basic hydraulics references

Know estimating quantities, cut/fill problems, soil properties, and timeline information 100% and will do fine; the practice prblems are MUCH more difficult than the actual test. I studied about 20-30 hrs for the test... but thats how I normally studied thru college

This is excellent advice. I used the exact same references to pass Construction in April '09 on the first try. I did not have 318 though and there were some real gimme problems if you had that. It seems that NCEES loves to hit up the OSHA manual year after year.

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I passed the Construction. Knowing your economics is key. Understanding depreciation and interest. Also, having the right reference books. I had my OSHA book, which made several of the questions really easy. I didn't have the ACI book, so I missed another really easy question. Understanding CPM schedules was important, there were at least 4 questions on these. And understanding basic structure design was helpful. I struggled on the SOE portion of the test, and it seemed like there were a lot of these questions. To me, the hardest part of the exam was the morning session, all those environmental and transportation questions. Thank god for the Civil Handbook.

I took construction afternoon and passed in IL, I agree OSHA book very important, practice problems very important, however there is not much material available. I also took the review course offered by the Illinois Institute of Technology but felt I would have done about the same on construction PM module even without the review.

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Passed Civil- Construction 1st try

CERM & practice problems (primary reference)

Full printout of OSHA CFR (primary reference)

ACI 318 (primary ref)

NCEES practice problem book

ASD- WSD

Handbook of Rigging - Rossnagel

Properties of concrete- Neville

ASCE 7-05

Construction Module Guide - Rajapakse (pretty much useless during test w/o any index provided and poor layout, but read commentary ahead of time)

Did not bring, but could have used a good surveying & roadway curve reference book & basic hydraulics references

Know estimating quantities, cut/fill problems, soil properties, and timeline information 100% and will do fine; the practice prblems are MUCH more difficult than the actual test. I studied about 20-30 hrs for the test... but thats how I normally studied thru college

This is excellent advice. I used the exact same references to pass Construction in April '09 on the first try. I did not have 318 though and there were some real gimme problems if you had that. It seems that NCEES loves to hit up the OSHA manual year after year.

MUTCD MUTCD MUTCD

The OSHA questions were very tricky. very tricky. very very tricky.

I don't remember any soil pressure problems though.

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Passed Civil- Construction 1st try

CERM & practice problems (primary reference)

Full printout of OSHA CFR (primary reference)

ACI 318 (primary ref)

NCEES practice problem book

ASD- WSD

Handbook of Rigging - Rossnagel

Properties of concrete- Neville

ASCE 7-05

Construction Module Guide - Rajapakse (pretty much useless during test w/o any index provided and poor layout, but read commentary ahead of time)

Did not bring, but could have used a good surveying & roadway curve reference book & basic hydraulics references

Know estimating quantities, cut/fill problems, soil properties, and timeline information 100% and will do fine; the practice prblems are MUCH more difficult than the actual test. I studied about 20-30 hrs for the test... but thats how I normally studied thru college

This is excellent advice. I used the exact same references to pass Construction in April '09 on the first try. I did not have 318 though and there were some real gimme problems if you had that. It seems that NCEES loves to hit up the OSHA manual year after year.

MUTCD MUTCD MUTCD

The OSHA questions were very tricky. very tricky. very very tricky.

I don't remember any soil pressure problems though.

I just can't believe I took a whole PE exam with no moment distribution or traditional rigid truss questions.

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I passed the Construction. Knowing your economics is key. Understanding depreciation and interest. Also, having the right reference books. I had my OSHA book, which made several of the questions really easy. I didn't have the ACI book, so I missed another really easy question. Understanding CPM schedules was important, there were at least 4 questions on these. And understanding basic structure design was helpful. I struggled on the SOE portion of the test, and it seemed like there were a lot of these questions. To me, the hardest part of the exam was the morning session, all those environmental and transportation questions. Thank god for the Civil Handbook.

Congrats! I also took construction last Oct. and failed. Cost estimating and construction operations were my weakest areas. Who authored your Civil Handbook? Are you selling it? Let me know. Thanks

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It was by W.F. Chen. I think there's a new version out now... this is the version I have http://www.amazon.com/Civil-Engineering-Ha...s/dp/0849389534

Its not the easiest book to navigate, but it has all the disciplines and a decent index.

Good Luck!

edited: This book didn't really help on the construction portion. It mostly helped me in the morning on the topics I didn't have much experiece in, which were the environmental and transportation questions.

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I am in Texas, and I failed with a 68 taking the Construction PM.

I have to say that the Testmasters class I attended prepared me poorly for Construction. The questions that we were told we'd see in the afternoon, and the study books we were told to use for practice problem purposes turned out to be almost entirely useless.

I need to know how to get good study materials from people who passed.

Out of my group of friends that did Testmasters, 3 out of 5 of us failed.

I think the notes for Testmasters in construction were improved better this past time around than the first time I took it in April 2010, I didn't take construction in the afternoon but I can see how you guys that did and took testmasters said that the notes were not good enough. I'm hoping for those that are taking testmasters this time around, that they have more tweaks to them.

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My friend told me that SMARTPRO manual is also useful review course.

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Add my name to the list of failures. This is my first post, been a watcher for awhile but i failed the construction afternoon BAD and now i'm at a loss. I did not feel that i did this bad at all but now i'm considering taking another afternoon concentration. I had what I felt were all the right resources and i don't know what went wrong. I now have to drop out my masters class (just started on monday) so that i can take the time and study for April and try and get this test done with but i'm not sure what to take. Any thoughts? My concentration during school was structures, but i do not feel i am strong enough in them so i was leaning towards transportation or geotech.

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Add my name to the list of failures. This is my first post, been a watcher for awhile but i failed the construction afternoon BAD and now i'm at a loss. I did not feel that i did this bad at all but now i'm considering taking another afternoon concentration. I had what I felt were all the right resources and i don't know what went wrong. I now have to drop out my masters class (just started on monday) so that i can take the time and study for April and try and get this test done with but i'm not sure what to take. Any thoughts? My concentration during school was structures, but i do not feel i am strong enough in them so i was leaning towards transportation or geotech.

I totally understand how you feel, I am in the same situation. I am now debating whether to take transportation in April. I attended school of pe and their bonus class for construction was not that helpful. I will take a look at the NCEES sample problems for transpo to help me decide..Good luck!

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Add my name to the list of failures. This is my first post, been a watcher for awhile but i failed the construction afternoon BAD and now i'm at a loss. I did not feel that i did this bad at all but now i'm considering taking another afternoon concentration. I had what I felt were all the right resources and i don't know what went wrong. I now have to drop out my masters class (just started on monday) so that i can take the time and study for April and try and get this test done with but i'm not sure what to take. Any thoughts? My concentration during school was structures, but i do not feel i am strong enough in them so i was leaning towards transportation or geotech.

I took Geo last October to save money from buying references. I scored 36/80. My lowest scores were in Geo topics too. EMBARASSING is an understatement! I am shifting to Construction for the April test. I don't have any construction experience here in the US but that was were my highest scores were so I'm giving it a shot!

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Add my name to the list of failures. This is my first post, been a watcher for awhile but i failed the construction afternoon BAD and now i'm at a loss. I did not feel that i did this bad at all but now i'm considering taking another afternoon concentration. I had what I felt were all the right resources and i don't know what went wrong. I now have to drop out my masters class (just started on monday) so that i can take the time and study for April and try and get this test done with but i'm not sure what to take. Any thoughts? My concentration during school was structures, but i do not feel i am strong enough in them so i was leaning towards transportation or geotech.

I took Geo last October to save money from buying references. I scored 36/80. My lowest scores were in Geo topics too. EMBARASSING is an understatement! I am shifting to Construction for the April test. I don't have any construction experience here in the US but that was were my highest scores were so I'm giving it a shot!

My advice is try to get and bring to the exam all the references that NCEES recommends and be prepared for very very tricky problems even those look up questions.

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Add my name to the list of failures. This is my first post, been a watcher for awhile but i failed the construction afternoon BAD and now i'm at a loss. I did not feel that i did this bad at all but now i'm considering taking another afternoon concentration. I had what I felt were all the right resources and i don't know what went wrong. I now have to drop out my masters class (just started on monday) so that i can take the time and study for April and try and get this test done with but i'm not sure what to take. Any thoughts? My concentration during school was structures, but i do not feel i am strong enough in them so i was leaning towards transportation or geotech.

I took Geo last October to save money from buying references. I scored 36/80. My lowest scores were in Geo topics too. EMBARASSING is an understatement! I am shifting to Construction for the April test. I don't have any construction experience here in the US but that was were my highest scores were so I'm giving it a shot!

My advice is try to get and bring to the exam all the references that NCEES recommends and be prepared for very very tricky problems even those look up questions.

Thanks. That's what I'm planning to do. One positive thing about failing: I now understand some of the topics that I didn't have any idea at all last time.

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