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  1. I took Civil Transpo and passed but I think my strategy would help as well. I also took the first 5-10 minutes reading through all questions and focused on the topics I knew. Before the exam, I came up with my own order that I would do all questions on my strongest topic first, then guestimate the rest with either educated guess or blind guess. For both AM and PM, I think my confidence is: AM: (28/40 sure x 85%) + (7/40 educated guess with elimination x 50%) +(5/40 blind guess x 25%) = 28.55 correct PM: (25/40 sure x 85%) + (5/40 educated guess with elim x 50%) + (10/40 blind guess all As x 25%) = 26.25 correct Total: 54.8/80 You can see my post and my Google Sheet on how I set up my answering order.
  2. Sorry to hear you didn't pass again. What was your AM/PM split? If you don't mind, please post your diagnostic report so we can help you improve your weaknesses. You improved from 42 to 50 but was it mainly on AM or PM, or 4 each? Without knowing the split, it's hard to find out your weakness so that a test strategy can be developed for October 2019. And you thought you nailed the topics that you did great the first time, but they can ask literally anything that you may not know of. Do not skip and skim through those topics this time around.
  3. Letter has finally arrived today. It was dated 5/14/2019 as told by @8-10 Weeks Later. It's a $120 check between me and my PE license now. I called the office to ask for the timeline. The lady who is in charge of licensing is out of office this week. So it would be at least after Memorial Day for the checks to be cashed. Now all of us should turn on notifications from our banks for cashing checks! Once checks are cashed, we can then use the license lookup tool to search for our names. If things go according to plan, we will become PEs at the end of May / early June.
  4. When I got there at 6:45am the escalator going up was working fine. Must be me that broke it lol. There is also an elevator to go up if you were aware. I remember reading about the same amount of ABCDs somewhere online (not sure if it was here). When I was done on the questions I knew and guessed educatedly in the PM depth, I probably only had like 1-2 As. With 60 seconds left and 8-9 questions without an answer, betting on As was a no-brainer. I would never knew how much of those As actually helped me, but my "engineering judgment" paid off with a "Pass".
  5. MspSdf


    Second. I thought they ran a promotion last April?
  6. lol the "lunch" was organized by the local Minnesota NSPE chapter with engineering companies as sponsors. The official Exam Authorization Notice actually included the "lunch" information so I only packed a energy bar and a water bottle. My own experience showed that having even a sandwich would make me sleepy.
  7. I also started a topic on my study experience with my google sheet analyzing my practice exams. hopefully it would be useful for everyone that needs another try.
  8. mine was around 190 hours but only for 7 weeks. I started late in mid-February. not to steal any thunder but I have summarized my whole study journey here:
  9. As I have said it in my other posts, I still can't believe I have passed my Civil Transportation PE first time. I would like to thank everyone here for making the otherwise miserable PE exam experience actually a lot of fun and engagement. Without the trolling and info sharing I think I would have given up just looking at the PE exam specifications. So here I am to share my study journey with pictures and actual link to my Google Sheet (edited for public viewing). Note that each one of us has different methods of study, below is just what I have done that worked for myself. Week 0-1 - Planning + Untimed Diagnostic Exam I started off a few days before Feburary 18 creating this spreadsheet myself, which I also had a similar spreadsheet back in 2017 when I planned for my first ever half-marathon that I practiced for 3 months and finished 2:18:10. Anyways. The reason I started this late was waiting for my company to confirm that I could be reimbursed for study materials, which turned out that they couldn't. Our local Minnesota NSPE chapter offered a virtual PPI course (live webinar + recorded access) with local engineering legends that began mid-January. When I subscribed to their course in early-February, I didn't even know about EngineerBoards. In my opinion, PPI course refreshed my mind for general concepts, but a lot of details would still need to be discovered through CERM and actually doing practice problems. The PPI course had a schedule with suggested pre-webinar homework. I didn't really do a lot but mainly focusing on the problems I got wrong on my "diagnostic" practice exam (see spreadsheet's "Practice exam 1 NCEES AM". Week 2-5 - PPI Course As you can see my weaknesses are on Means & Methods, Soil Mechanics, Materials, and Structural, I spent my efforts trying to bring those up to at least get a few more correct and less guesses. But after around a month of studying, my second AM practice exam on Week 6 (Civil Pe Practice AM Version B), I only improved from 24 to 26. On my 2A pivot table, factoring in improving from my silly mistakes, I predicted I will get 28 on AM. After 2 weeks, I quickly recognized my AM wasn't going to get any better, but I would have more chances on PM. I did not do any diagnostics and go right into the PPI webinars and notes. At that point I still did not have any official manual references yet so I stuck with the course and work on problems on CERM and CETR. Week 6 - Doing Practice Problems + Timed 8-hour Practice Exam I was able to borrow 4 main references from the library finally on Week 6, and went right to the 6-minute transpo book doing every single problem with the references (Green Book, HCM 6th ed, Roadside Design Guide, MUTCD, HSM draft version found online). By the end of week 6, I did a 8-hour timed practice exam (Civil Pe Practice AM Version B + NCEES Practice Exam PM only) and scored 26/29 = 54. Week 7 - Reviewing Wrong Problems + Setting Exam Strategy So my focus last week was to only brushing up my points of failure and try to improve them. Another I did was to really breaking up the Exam Specifications NCEES provided to us. I figured the official NCEES practice exam problems were in order of the Specifications, but the other practice exams were not. Since I am taking it first-time I didn't know what to expect. I decided that I would use the first few minutes of both AM and PM to flip through the entire exam and mark all questions with order numbers according to my pivot table 2A for AM (I also have a similar table for PM but I actually marked it on the actual specifications I printed out beforehand). On the actual exam, I roughly spent 3:30 on 30 AM problems and 3:15 on 25 PM problems according to my order. The remaining 15-30 minutes for the rest of the problems I struggled with, I gussed around 5 questions for each AM/PM with elimination, and the remaining ones (5 AM, 10 PM) putting all bets on a single letter choice (as the correct ABCD answers are equal = 10 each). I also used the same guessing strategy for my FE paper exam and it also worked. Reflection Looking back, if I would have done it differently, I would have started a month earlier and allow myself more time to work on practice problems and take one more practice exam to be sure. But in the end, it's all about the combination of exam strategy (plan) with actual tactics (action) that worked out. As Sun Tzu said in book The Art of War, “Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” The local MnSPE board also offered "power" snacks during lunch. Kudos to them and their sponsors.
  10. oh no. bummer. better luck on your next round. BTW a few of us EBers are planning to meet up in Minneapolis at Fulton or Inbound brewery to celebrate our efforts no matter if you passed of failed. You and everyone in town are welcome to join. DM me if you would like to join.
  11. Good to know. But I mean IF NCEES says "Pass" online and letter arrive saying "Fail"... That's my worry right now lol.
  12. MspSdf

    Cut scores

    For Civil Transpo, I started a post with April 2019 cut scores. Highest I have seen so far was 49/80. Based on the tough PM depth section, my guesstimate is 50-52, which is in line with other civil disciplines.
  13. @8-10 Weeks Later quoted MN board that letters were mailed on Tuesday. Still no mail for me as of today. Now is the real wait for the license application in the letter to arrive. What happens if MN board said you failed? 😰
  14. Works for me too as I will be going to the Twins game. DM me both your numbers and I will create a text group.
  15. Copying from my post on the April 2019 thread... "Can't believe I passed Civil Transportation! I took the PPI course offered by local NSPE chapter. The instructors were all local and helped a lot, but the course material wasn't really detailed in my opinion. I also canceled a trip to Hawaii for my friend's wedding and stay at home to study more. I feel 50-50 when I walked out of the room. AM I should get around 25, educated guess 7-8 and at least 6-7 were foreign to me so I put down all Cs for Civil. For PM I spent 3:15 hours doing 25 questions and left myself 45 minutes for 15 questions. I probably got all those 15 wrong (putting As on 10 of them in the last minute) but I think the 25 questions that I spent most of my time on were mostly correct. So that gave me 30 AM + 25 PM = 55 Total estimate. My time management was really bad. I was probably lucky to be able to pull it off. Bringing a watch and set the stopwatch is a must. About a month ago before the exam I were still debating if I should purchase all the manuals and guidelines listed. Coincidentally I sat next to a guy during a conference (same location as the exam lol) that he suggested me to do a search on the public library website. Guess what... I was able to borrow the Roadside Design Guide, MUTCD actual book, AASHTO Green Book, and HCM 6th ed. I also found the HSM draft version online (from 2009) with very similar materials as the published HSM. And I did use all of them during the PM. For everyone that didn't pass, maybe luck was't on your side this time. Keep believing in yourself and you will pass for sure!"
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