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  1. Below is a link to my experience. All of this will go out the window though in 2020 once they transition to the computer test. May actually be easier because everything they test on will be required to be in the reference manual. I don't think you can bring references or notes for the computer test.
  2. I took the test in CA and my notes were hand written in pencil in a spiral bound book. Probably better to photo copy them but I did not encounter any issues with them in pencil.
  3. ^^^+1. Right after I felt I did ok, Friday night major doubt creeped in as I thought about all the problems I know I got wrong, and by Saturday morning I was positive I failed. Stayed that way until I got the results on Dec. 6th and frankly I was shocked that I passed. I am so scarred, it is too early for me to try and even help people that post practice problems. Haha. I get stressed just reliving the memory of all the stress.
  4. No, I had the lowest passing score...😝 Haha. I think most all of us that passed feel this way.
  5. Shooting for 70% score will almost be a guaranteed pass. I think there are only 1 or 2 reported fail scores of 56 across all different disciplines over a few years. Problems, problems, problems. Don't go really deep into subjects. They test on breadth rather than specifics. Knowing the basics of each area is more beneficial than being very proficient in only a few.
  6. Here is a link to my experience after passing on the first try in Oct 2018 and how I prepared. Not the best example of what you should do since I only took once practice test and only studied for 2 months, but the subjects I focused on and the others that I completely ignored or barely paid attention to really paid off and prevented me from wasting hours on studying things that I wasn't going to be asked, or if I was, it would only probably be one question that I most likely would have skipped anyway.
  7. Yeah, I guess. I didn't mention any specifics regarding the question. Similar to saying study gears, or economics, or ethics. Doesn't really reveal the content of what was asked. I changed it to be more generic though, just to be safe.
  8. No, but they still throw curve balls at you that have nothing to do with materials and machine design. On the October test they had a question regarding fluids. Really ticked me off, but I think I still got it right. My recommendation is anytime you encounter something like those that you can't figure out quickly, just skip them and go back if you have time at the end. Definitely do A LOT of problems. I can't recommend any sources because I only took the NCEES practice exam 😉, but I think I got lucky. You have the right idea in saving that test for last, as most have said it is closest in difficulty to the actual test.
  9. SolidWorks. Nothing else even compares. Other programs may be better at in depth FEA or complex surfacing, but for machine design, nothing beats it.
  10. In California, if all of your experience came from areas and corporations that were exempt from professional licensure (ie: manufacturing, mining, aerospace, public utilities, R&D, industrial corporations), you don't even need a single PE as a reference. The only time they require you to submit a PE as a reference, is if you worked for an employer that had non-exempt status. I am not sure what state you are in, but that may be the case in your location as well.
  11. I recently passed the October 2018 exam on my first attempt after being out of school for 8 years. I will describe what worked for me below per advice of another engineer that had recently passed. I started going through the NCEES practice test problem by problem. For each problem, I would find the corresponding section in BOTH textbook and MDM manual. I would make sure I had an excellent understanding of the concepts, and write down the important, bold equations and more importantly made sure I had an understanding of what these equations meant and how to use them as well as pertinent text notes. I would also tab the books at this time. If I could do it all over again, I would have started with other practice tests of similar or slightly higher difficulty and saved the NCEES test for last, because that is supposedly very similar in difficulty to the real test. I then looked at any subjects that the NCEES test didn't touch, that I thought were basic, common, and useful that they might test me on, and studied these. I COMPLETELY IGNORED sections like reliability equations, fracture mechanics, surface fatigue, gear tooth stress analysis, AGMA methods, planetary motion, moving reference frames and LIGHTLY STUDIED things like trusses, cables, and vector equations. I also IGNORED engineering economics and ethics, knowing that I would just skip these questions if they came up and try to look them up at the end. I also reviewed the "Plant Engineering" section of MDM and tabbed a lot of it, but didn't necessarily go in depth studying, figuring I would look for the answer in the exam if one of these came up. I FOCUSED HIGHLY on material properties, stress/strain/fatigue calculations, body/projectile motion, friction, equilibrium equations (summing moments/forces), bolts/pins/keys, machine elements (springs, gears, brakes, belts, chains), normal distributions/std deviations. quality assurance (Cpk, Ppk, timeline mapping, quality charts). I already had a GOOD understanding of GDT, tolerancing, and machining/inspection from industry, but I would have studied these a to reasonable depth as well if I didn't know about them already. The exam tests breadth more so than depth of knowledge as the previous poster said. So know the basics of almost every section in the BIG THREE (shigley, statics, dynamics). After finishing the test and all my studying, I literally went through and re-wrote all of my notes and equations and tabbed my notebook. This step was the most important for me because it helped me realize which subjects I needed to look at a little more in depth and allowed me to consolidate everything in a concise, easy to read/access format for the test. I also made notes on the units to use for the equations. UNITS ARE CRITICAL! Spend a lot of time making sure you are using the correct units with the equations and for God's sake get the "Engineering Unit Conversions" book. It is a life saver and a necessity during the test. Finally, I simulated test day and re-took the NCEES practice test in two separate 4 hour sessions. If I could do it all over again, I would have used other practice tests for studying and took the NCEES test last. I had my wife grade the test, looked at my mistakes, and noted any common pitfalls in my notes in the relevant section so I didn't make the same mistake on test day (mostly all of them were units). Reference Materials I Brought: Shigley Mechanical Design, Statics textbook, Dynamics Textbook, Engineering Unit Conversions, NCEES Practice Exam, MDM manual, and my notes I wish I had time to do more practice problems, but all I did was the NCEES test. If I failed, I would have focused on problems, problems, problems. All in all, I probably did a little over 200 hours of self-studying in 2 months with no classes taken. I hope this helped.
  12. I got the green box as well. Still feel like I got lucky. For those that end up not passing, all I could suggest is problems, problems, problems. Also, don't go into the intense specifics. Avoid specialized subjects like fracture mechanics, reliability equations, surface fatigue, gear tooth stress analysis, planet dynamics, moving reference frames, etc. Know the basics of all the shigley, statics, and dynamics, but don't get overwhelmed by delving into deep specifics. They don't test you on that. It's more of a breadth test. Being 8 years out of school, I spent most all of my time re-learning the concepts and felt like I ran out of time on practicing problems. If your efficient at the problems and know the first few sections of every chapter in Shigley, Statics, and Dynamics, you will pass.
  13. Congrats! Still waiting on results in California. Will check again tomorrow.
  14. I whole heartedly agree with everything that monty01 said. Got my fingers crossed they release the results by Friday of this week.
  15. You just have to be careful when people say they got a certain percent correct. Just because the answer someone got was there, doesn't mean it was actually the correct one of all the choices. My advice would be not to think about it or dwell on it. What's done is done, and if you end up not passing, hopefully you came out with a more focused and efficient game plan on how to study for the next time. I am just trying to keep myself too busy to dwell on it. I really won't start getting anxious for the results until middle of the first week of December, because that is the absolute soonest they will come out.
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