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  1. I would only pursue an MS as a personal goal - my gut tells me that an MS will do little to advance your career that a PE already do. For this reason, an MBA seems to be a much more popular option, as it should open come doors career wise.
  2. I knew that my weaknesses were structures and geotech. The problem that I had the first time around is that I took the live version of SoPE, and I struggled to follow the instructors for these categories. I also realized that I was beat after work, and taking the class on weekday nights was not working for me. I switched to on-demand on the 2nd attempt, and studied less on weekdays and more on weekends. I was also able to select my instructors from past classes, and found instructors for Geo and Structures that I could follow better. It made all the difference. I also stressed less on my 2nd attempt, as I knew more of what to expect. If you plan on switching depth this time, I would look into taking another review class for the transportation portion - the notes from SoPE are worth their weight in gold.
  3. Oddly enough, the pass rates were nearly identical to April 2017 (April 2018 = 69/42, April 2017 = 68/42). (Edit - Oops, didn't realize that those photos were the same. April 2018 was 64/38. That is low indeed.)
  4. If you're in Texas, you can go here and at least get a score - I'm not sure what else they'll tell you.
  5. Confirmed: Cut score for Power PE was a 90.
  6. More than likely, yes. It's worth a call, but a board might not allow you to sit just because another state allowed you. Requirements vary from state to state.
  7. Some people are simply incredible test takers. I knew people in college that spent no time studying, woke up 10 minutes before an exam, stumbled into class, and aced exams nearly every time. I, on the other hand, would study for hours, stress, lose sleep, and barely pass many classes. I am a self-proclaimed awful test taker. FYI - she could have easily spent 1 night by taking a practice exam, if she inherited reference material that had already been tabbed out.
  8. I took SoPE, twice. They offered a free retake of the course should you fail your first attempt at the exam. I found some classes to work really well, but struggled to follow along with others (Geotech / Structures were difficult the first time). I took the live class the first time, but the 2nd time I took the on-demand version which allowed me to study more on my weaknesses. It also allowed me to switch instructors if I had difficulty following someone (they posted multiple instructors for every topic for the on-demand class). Overall, I would recommend SoPE. They were very professional, and I definitely wouldn't have passed without those classes or the supplied study material.
  9. Some states require that you take additional classes prior to a 4th attempt, or gain additional work experience - it's really up to your state's board to decide. I wouldn't go into it making excuses. Just simply state what has occurred, and be clear about what you intend to do to improve your chances on the 4th attempt. As others have said, don't assume that your state requires an appeal for a 4th attempt - not all states have this requirement. Maine attempted to get rid of this requirement recently - it failed to pass.
  10. It seems low across the board, but then again, it always seems low to me. The repeat rates always fascinate me, especially considering I passed three different tests on my first repeat attempt. The odds were never in my favor, yet I personally seemed to do well in that situation.
  11. You're very welcome - When I failed the PE back in Oct 2016, I remember someone writing something similar. At the time, I was pretty hopeless and the only thing I felt like doing was giving up the exam all together. It helps knowing that you're definitely not alone in what you're going through.
  12. I just joined this community yesterday, but I know that there are a lot of people out there that are currently getting some really awful news. While I am by no means an expert in test taking, I feel like I am somewhat qualified to offer some advice. I've taken four different NCEES exams, failing three of them - (FS Fail, FS Pass, FE Pass, PS Fail, PS Pass, PE Fail, PE Pass). If NCEES ever goes public, I'll buy stock. So for those who failed: 1) Take a Deep Breath: You're currently feeling a lot of emotions right now, and they're likely all negative. You poured countless hours and hundreds of dollars into this exam, and are feeling like it was all for nothing. It wasn't for nothing. You're now closer to passing the exam than you ever have been. This might feel like a huge set back, but it's a necessary step forward toward your license. Some people get there in one big step, while others take many small steps to get to their destination. 2) Prepare for Returning to Work: For me, this was the worst part of failing the exams. Having to explain my failure to co-workers, many of whom had already passed the PE or PS exam, was really difficult. In your mind, you likely think that colleagues are judging you more than they really are. The reality is that they are almost always sympathetic and feel badly for you. I've read some horror stories in the past where co-workers will verbally put down or make fun of someone who has failed - if this happens to you, I am so very sorry. That is truly a bad situation for so many reasons. But, 99% of the time, your co-workers will be sympathetic. 3) Take a Break: Every time I failed, my gut instinct was to jump right back on the horse and immediately start studying again. This is a positive mentality to have, but it might not be the most productive for passing this exam. Your first reaction might be, "But I've had a break for the past 6-8 weeks since I took my test". In reality, you haven't had a break. You've been stressing over the results, possibly losing sleep. Now that you know that you've failed and that you will have the opportunity to take the exam again, it's time to rest and clear your mind. You know what lies in your future, but for the next month, try to rest and make a plan. 4) Plan Your Move: One of the few benefits to failing is that you are presented with a report showing your weaknesses. Depending on how the exam went and what you know about yourself, this may or may not help you. For instance, my first PE fail showed that I was basically below average on everything except surveying. For me, it was completely back to the drawing board, but if you know that you're extremely strong in certain categories, terribly weak in others, and your results show this, then use it to your advantage when you start studying again. 5) Hop Back On the Horse: After a month of rest, pull out the crate of books that you last touched back in April, and slowly start studying again. If you took a prep class like EET or SoPE, look into if they offer a free 2nd attempt, or discounted classes for attempts beyond the 2nd attempt. If there were things that you didn't like about the class the first time, look into changing the school or instructor this time around (I had a difficult time following my geotech instructor the first time, and found that changing the instructor the 2nd time made all the difference). If you took a live class the first time and know where your weaknesses are this time, consider switching to on-demand if that's an option. This will allow you to spend more time on weak areas and less time on your strengths. 6) Pace Yourself: October is five months away. I won't lie - when taking a 2nd attempt and focusing on studying, those 5 months flew by. If you take a one month break, you have four months to study, and that is plenty of time. It's also plenty of time to completely burn yourself out. It's important to constantly study, but to also give your mind breaks. If your work is physically draining, plan on minimal studying on work days. If you must have weekends free, study 1-2 hrs a night, but give yourself a couple of nights off every week. Cramming and turning your brain to mush will do you no good in October - slow and steady wins the race. 7) When October Arrives, Relax: Stress is as much a factor in failing an exam as not being knowledgeable in your exam material. You will stress more going into this exam simply out of fear of failing again. Practice suppressing this fear, and know that you have an upper hand this time. You know what the test looks like. You know what the AM/PM time frame feels like. You've been here before. Reduce panic, skip questions that you are lost on, focus on what you know. (I realize all of this is easier said than done) But for now - just breathe. Looking back, this moment will blend with all others. You will no longer look upon it as a negative experience, but rather a building block that was necessary to get where you are bound to go. Best of luck!
  13. Congrats! It doesn't get old If you share it on social media, you'll get a "on this day" reminder every year and get to see it all over again 😛
  14. I was trying to create an account yesterday and kept failing the "What is the square root of 16" security question. ....I was having second thoughts on if I should be trying to join this forum 😁
  15. Every state seems different - If I recall correctly, Maine's policy is that official licensure was subject to passing the exam and the board receiving payment for the license. It took me a few days after getting my NCEES pass notice. The board sent an official letter in the mail stating where I could mail my check (letter arrived 1 day after NCEES pass email), the check took two days to travel to the board and for the board to cash it (if I was really eager, I could have hand delivered it that day), and the board then sent me a PDF copy of my license with the online license database showing my PE license as "active". At that point, it's official. The wall hanging certificate took 2-3 additional weeks to arrive.
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