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  1. Survey Questions on Law/Acts?

    Thank you for clarifying the matter. I wish my study books did a better job at doing so.
  2. I already thanked him, after he so graciously corrected my absent minded mistake which i was not able to correct due to the features of this forum. But thanks for thanking him extra.
  3. My statistics only come from word of mouth, what I've read here on this forum, and on this very post in addition to some of my study books. I don't care to look up the published statistics. I stand by my statement that I don't see the point in making these tests such a time crunch. Doesn't reflect upon the real world of engineering, and doesn't reflect on your knowledge or ability of the subject. It tests you on your ability to take timed tests. Which I'm honestly great at, considering I'm not that far removed from school. However, I have many colleagues and friends who aren't, who are then forced to retake these tests, even though I would say they are very knowledgeable and cable engineers. So they are forced to devote a larger amount of time to doing 400+ practice problems (fun when you have a full time job and a family) so that they have the ability answer all these questions in 2.7 minutes or less on average. Even if you manage that you have zero time to check your work, again how realistic is that? Not sure what your stake is in the matter or why you're defending the process. Are you on the board? What is your reasoning for supporting the test format? The money grab probably isn't true, probably isn't that much money anyway overall. I have found that board members don't care too much about making the application process easier for younger engineers entering the field. This is mostly based on my experiences dealing with the Arizona board, however.
  4. Survey Questions on Law/Acts?

    Thanks for the advice, that'll help me hone in on what to focus on. I finally read the test plan which people seem to refer to as the syllabus (I think?) and that also helped answer my own question, as I had only been looking at the reference list, which isn't all that helpful. It seems like I took that the take home test ages ago with how far in advance you have to register to take the test, back in October maybe? Also, you don't have the CTRL-F function during the test, although if you did that would be the biggest help in the world. I've noticed questions regarding what a Civil Engineer can and can't do as far as surveying pop up several times on the practice exams, so I think I have a decent grasp on that part at least. I was just tripped up on some very specific SMA questions and another one regarding the required survey process when owners of two adjacent properties wish to permanently alter a common boundary. Very specific ones like that seem like you'd have to really know those acts or spend a really long time combing through them which you just don't have. I'm also still stuck in the student thought process of wanting to get 90% of the questions right, but need to convince myself to just let certain questions slide knowing I only need ~60%. Hopefully I get enough trig/calculation questions right so that I can miss some random knowledge questions.
  5. Thank you! It me right after I posted it but couldn't figure out how to edit my post. Is that not an option?
  6. I stumbled upon this post when I started studying for the Seismic/Surveying exams so I thought I'd post regarding my experience to give back. I'm a structural engineer in Arizona who already passed the PE a year ago and just took the Seismic Exam earlier this month, and am taking the Surveying next week. Per Civil Dawg's recommendation I bought Hiner's Seismic book. I didn't bother reading it, and just did all the 20 or so long questions and all ~430 of the shorter questions. Not sure how long I studied in total, but I felt very prepared going into the exam having done so many practice problems. As others have noted, time really is the biggest issue and you have basically no time to try and look anything up. One question asked .............<deleted>............. and I definitely spent wayyyy too long finding it in the ACI because I was too stubborn to skip it. Anyways, I still think I did well and would definitely recommend Hiner's book and cranking out all the problems if you have time, I can't imagine a better way to study. I'd also like to add, as others have said, I think it's ridiculous how much of a time crunch these tests are. Doesn't reflect the real world at all and only tests you on your test taking ability. Sure, the percent you need to get correct is low, but why not allow another hour and half and increase the number of questions required to pass. I really think that would better reflect ones knowledge over just their test taking abilities. Why does the PE exam offer 4 hours for 40 questions while seismic/surveying is 2.5 hours for 55? Doesn't seem right, and part of me thinks it's just a money grab by the California board. Anyways, good luck to anyone else taking it this April or in the future, I'll update my post after I finish up with the Surveying exam.
  7. I was wondering if anyone might be able to tell me if there are a lot questions on the the law/rules/acts for the surveying exam? I know they list the Professional Engineers Act, the Board Rules, and the Subdivision Map Act on the reference list, so I suppose they are fair game. Also, there's the Professional Land Surveyors Act which one of my books mentioned as a reference but isn't listed on the BPELSG site. Should I really bother printing those out and attempting to "study" them? I'm terrible at reading and retaining information, and nothing is more boring and mind numbing then reading things which are written in legal speak. I have the Paul Cuomo book and Mansour's book. Mansour's doesn't even provide anything on the laws/acts and Cuomo covers it briefly. Cuomo's book also says that you wouldn't be tested on the Subdivision Map Act because boundary surveying is beyond the authority of registered civil engineers, but that seems to contradict the board listing it as a reference. The subdivision map act is super long (~100 pages) and I feel reading it or printing it out might yield little benefit, but would love to hear other's opinions. Is there a strategy for studying these types of questions? They come up once in a while in the two practice exams I have, and they often stump me, especially questions about the the laws regarding specific types of boundaries and maps.