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  1. CA PE Exam - Engagement Form Help

    You don't need 4 engagements in California, you just need 4 references. Here's the difference: Suppose you work at the same company for all of your qualifying time and the entire time with the same job title. That's one engagement. As long as you can get at least 4 P.E.s to serve as references for you, you're good. Now suppose you work at the same company for all of your qualifying time, but are promoted at some point along the way from "Engineer 1" to "Engineer 2." That's still only one employer, but the higher level of responsibility inherent in the 'Level 2' promotion is a different engagement. In this case you have one employer, but two engagements. You'll need at least one reference for each of the two engagements and at least four references in total. If you've worked with all of the same P.E.s during all of your qualifying time, then it's really arbitrary which reference is applied to which engagement as long as they've reviewed your work at that engagement.
  2. When a PE denies signing the SER

    In California, the Engagement Record and Reference Form needs to be signed by a licensed P.E. or by someone who is exempt under CA law from needing a license (civils may have more restrictions, though). If you're in that kind of situation, you might see if anyone else can sign your form as, at least in CA, the objectives are primarily to verify your claimed experience and to evaluate your readiness for a license, which could in principle include your direct supervisor, an indirect supervisor, or just a coworker, as long as the reference has actually seen your work.
  3. Each company you work for is an engagement, but so is each position level to which you might be promoted. For example, suppose you start with your company as "Engineer I" and are promoted to "Engineer II" and both of those are part of your qualifying experience. You now have two engagements even though you only have one employer. Each engagement requires a minimum of one reference.
  4. Pomona Exam center

    I took (and passed) both the EIT and PE at the Pomona Fairplex location. The parking fee has always been $10, cash only. There's not much on site for your wife to keep herself occupied with while you take your exam and she won't be allowed in the room. The exam is held in one or more of the exhibit halls (see graphic for a rough idea). Seating is arranged via 6-foot rectangular tables that each accommodate two people. Seating is assigned and they make a point of being sure no one in your immediate vicinity is taking the same exam you are. The exhibit hall is huge and will accommodate several hundred test takers. All of the references and other materials you bring will need to fit under the table and not obstructing the aisle. You can have books and such on top of the table, but they don't want you piling those so high that you end up making a fort out of them such that they can't clearly see what you're doing. There will typically be one or two food vendors available for lunch. The food is ok, but way overpriced because they know they're the only game in town. You can bring food with you, but will generally need to leave it in your car. The parking lot where they have you park is not overly far from the exhibit halls, so that's not too much of a problem. Be sure to have current (unexpired) U.S. government issued photo ID (driver license or passport, for example) and do not wear a fitbit or any other unauthorized electronic device; I've personally seen people get kicked out of the exam room for both of those causes. People will typically start arriving in the parking lot between 6:00 and 6:30am. The doors open at 7:00am and they'll have signs posted just inside the room to direct you to your assigned seat. By 7:30 or so they'll start passing out exam materials and reading the instructions; if you're not in the room and checked in at your seat by this point, you're probably SOL on taking the exam. The exam itself typically starts around 8am and concluding four hours thereafter with warnings at 15 minutes, 5 minutes, and 1 minute remaining. Regardless of when everyone is dismissed for lunch (you can't re-enter the room once you leave for lunch), they open the doors again for the afternoon half by about 1pm and by about 1:30 or so you've started the second half of the exam with time being called around 5:30pm with the same time warnings called. By 6pm they should have collected all of the exam materials and dismissed you from the room. By the time you get out to your car and wait in the painfully slow line of cars to exit the fairgrounds, it will easily be 6:30pm. It's a solid 12-hour day. In terms of arriving at the location in the morning, traffic on the northbound 57 freeway in the morning is typically very light. I don't know where in Orange County you're living, but at only 26 miles away, you're still in north OC. I was in Orange County when I took the exam and had no problem getting to the exam site in plenty of time to get myself checked in. I even had time to run by Starbucks on my way there. It's probably not worth the expense to stay at a hotel vs a half hour drive, but do as you will.
  5. To Those That Passed After Multiple Attempts

    I had previously taken a review course, which was helpful in that it provided some basic test taking strategies, but the only real help those classes give you is an opportunity and an imperative to drill problems. I passed in October 2016; from my previous unsuccessful attempts I had paid attention to the general types of scenarios the problems frequently presented and prepared my resource material to reflect a template I could follow to reduce my time spent in my books. For example, I took the fluid and thermal module, which among other topics covers various power and refrigeration cycles (the test specifications from NCEES will tell you this much, so I'm not revealing anything about the actual exam content here). For any specific cycle that I anticipated encountering, I had prepared an outline of that cycle with the various components frequently found in it and the physical properties of interest expressed as variables. I took the same approach for questions concerning systems and equipment.
  6. CA Results

    I agree with this.
  7. April 2017 15k spam-a-thon

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  8. April 2017 15k spam-a-thon

    There's no need to argue...
  9. April 2017 15k spam-a-thon

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  10. To those taking the April 2017 exam...

    Good luck!
  11. California Results Any news???

    What about those nifty plastic wallet cards?
  12. Applying for Additional Exam in CA

    @CAPLS: This isn't urgent as I have no intention of applying for October 2017, but will be of eventual interest. Suppose I already have a P.E. license in California (Mechanical) and want to test for an additional P.E. in, for example, Fire Protection. A glance at my MyNCEES record shows me the attached screenshot. How would I proceed in that case when NCEES blocks registration for the exam? Also, as BPELSG already has my transcripts and take home exam, would I only need my application and references for my fire protection qualifying experience? What other materials, if any, would I need to submit? Thanks.
  13. When Are License Numbers Available?

    No, I didn't. I took PPI's course.
  14. When Are License Numbers Available?

  15. As I was waiting for the October 2016 results to post, I submitted a request to my state's board for verification of my exams and/or licenses to help put together my NCEES record. You can reach this feature by logging in to your MyNCEES account, selecting "Multi-State Licensure" from the menu bar on the left, then selecting "Exam and License Verification." After NCEES released the results to the state board and before the state board released them to examinees, I saw the information depicted in the attached image. Of interest here is that I took the PE exam more than once, but only the October 2016 exam (the one I passed) showed up. This screen has since been populated with my FE exam date and with my license number, but it would appear that if you submit a request to your state board for verification of your exams and licenses and you see the exam you just took show up on that screen just prior to receiving your results notice, it would appear that you passed. That said, the difference between when I saw that information and when I got my official result release was a matter of an hour or two on the same day. Just thought I'd share for anyone else who might find this interesting.