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  1. No offense taken and I welcome your feedback. I have sat for professional level examinations and do have a license. I have over 37 years employed in the engineering and surveying industry. While I will certainly acknowledge there is always room for improvement to processes by licensing boards, there should be equal acknowledgement that professional level applicants also contribute their fair share to the inefficiency in the process. I'm also somewhat familiar with the idea of states "decoupling from the exams" as you would say it, including some unique insight to that process among the various boards. It doesn't promote "licensure of engineers". Rather it promotes more flexible operational arrangements to facilitate the examination portion of the requirements of licensure based on the recognition that not every individual desiring to obtain a license reaches that goal in the same manner. In that regard, those licensing boards or "states" as you referred to them are already "sit(ting) back and reflect(ing) on the inefficiencies of the "system". So, in that respect...they are listening. California included. In regards to your statement about making the California state exams a true year round continuous test, it can't get any "truer" than what it will be after April 1. Whether the state exams are taken prior to submitting the application to the California Board or afterwards (as it is now) has absolutely no relevance to being a "true year round continuous test". Apples and oranges. If you understood California requirements more clearly, you would see that the requirements for licensure in this state is 2 years less than most of the other states. And if you pay attention to the statistics that the California Board publishes on a regular basis, California licensing candidates historically and very consistently have a pass rate on the national PE-Civil exams that is 10-15% lower than the national average. This is based on decades of information. Essentially speaking, California has been "decoupled" for many years and everyone can see the results! The California state exams are designed for an audience that is based upon the minimum requirements for licensure. If the "qualified" candidates are consistently and historically scoring below the national average, why would the California Board change the process to allow anyone, including those that are not even close to meeting the licensure requirements, to sit for those exams? That would not be in the best interest of the licensure candidates that truly are ready to be licensed based on their actual real world experience and that would not be in the best interest of the public. You know the public...the people that are the REAL reason for licensing and the board to exist in the first place. Lastly, and because you originally mentioned that the process was not very efficient for the people located out of the state of California, you should probably recognize that the California Board took it upon themselves to change the process to allow their state specific exams to be taken anywhere in the country specifically to assist those out of state candidates...beginning in 2012! Two years prior to the FE/FS exams being offered as "true year round continuous tests" and two more years before any of the national PE/PS exams became "true year round continuous tests". And this action was solely the Board's without any pressure from government in an effort to assist the many that choose to apply in California because they don't actually qualify in their own state. Just saying you may want to do a little research on any of the engineering/surveying licensing boards in this country to see what strides they have made prior to making comments such as that.
  2. The purpose of the application is to obtain licensure. If the candidate truly has the work experience and knowledge necessary to sufficiently "offer and perform their professional services" to and for the public, studying for an exam would not be necessary...or at a minimum, not as much an emphasis as it's made out to be...and truly understood how the laws describe what is/is not (insert discipline here) engineering rather than ONLY rely upon what their mentors or peers think, then the application process would be vastly different.
  3. Reciprocity

    If you plan to apply to the California Board for a Civil Engineer license, you will be required to pass the two state Civil exams. There is no waiver. It's a legal requirement to demonstrate competency in those two subjects. For a practicing licensee with the amount of "civil engineering" experience you are stating, those shouldn't be an issue for you.
  4. California EIT Certification Requirement

    I would recommend that you go ahead and submit an application for EIT to the California Board based on what you've described.
  5. I'm guessing you are referring to the California Board since their two state specific Civil exams were recently announced as going to continuous administration. That, and the fact that the national PE-Civil exam administered by NCEES is still paper/pencil twice a year for the foreseeable future. If this is true, and you need to sit for the national PE-Civil exam, you need to register/logon at NCEES (MyNCEES) account and register IMMEDIATELY if you wish to take it in April this year AND if the jurisdiction you are registering under allows for that without specific Board approval. If you are registering under the California Board, and have previously passed the FE exam, just go register and take it.
  6. The "60 days" that the Board states is supposed to include the time from receipt of the completed application to the time that the applicant is notified of the results of the application review. I emphasized "complete" because a large portion of applications that are received do not have sufficient information (i.e., signatures, names, dates, number of engagement forms, references not competing their part sufficiently, no fingerprints, no court documents, request to accept education but no transcripts, failed to include payment, etc.) While it is important for the Board to always try and improve the effectiveness of their processes themselves, it is a two way street. This being said, I would suspect that since the "new" process is new to everyone involved, including the Board staff, there are likely delays not caused by an action of the applicant. All which is way I have offered assistance trying to help ease the transition for everyone. The Board totally gets the concerns related to the amount it is taking.
  7. Prometric has CBT centers all over the world. However, California only allows their state exams within the and territories.
  8. All good questions. After April 1, 2018, the two California Civil exams are scheduled to be offered any day that the CBT Centers are open. Generally speaking, this is 6 days a week, though some are open on Sunday and there are extended hours at some in higher population areas. Assuming your initial application is approved, expect that you will be authorized to sit once per exam, per quarter, in the quarter following the date you submit your application. Also, I know of some that have scheduled to sit at a CBT Center in the location where they were vacationing. So, there's always that option too (if you are a glutton for punishment)
  9. CA PE Timeline

    Technically, quique07 asked how long the application period took for PE in CA. According to k.heezy's schedule, that would have started 7/05/17...6 months. Would be nice to cut that in half again.
  10. Scheduling CA Exams

    Everyone approved to sit in the 2nd quarter (April - June) will be notified to schedule by email sometime in Feb-Mar.
  11. CA Specific Exams

    email info
  12. CA Specific Exams Re-examination

    There is no approval of a re-exam request because your actual application for licensure was previously approved. The fact you sent a money order confirms funds. Prepare for the next exam and wait for your email with authorization to test notice.
  13. CA Specific Exams

    Happy holidays everyone!