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  1. The NCEES Power PE Handbook for the upcoming CBT exam has just been released. I was wondering what you all thought about the content that was released. One big thing that stood out was this statement, " In addition to the PE Electrical and Computer: Power Reference Handbook, the exam will include codes and standards for your use. A list of the material that will be included in your exam is available at ncees.org along with the exam specifications.". The list of the codes that seems to be included, National Electrical Code (NFPA 70)• National Electric Safety Code (ANSI C2)• Standard for Electrical Safety in the Workplace (NFPA 70E)• Hazardous Area Classification (NFPA 30B, NFPA 497, NFPA 499). I also found it interesting that they included next to nothing on Protection. For those of you that have our Engineering Pro Guides Textbook (Technical Study Guide), we will be adding write-ups, because our guide does not have the following material that is included in the NCEES Handbook. Everything else is covered. Depreciation (looks like this was taken from the FE Handbook) 4-pin method and variation of depth method for ground resistance testing Lightning protection assessment (this was taken from NFPA 780) Grounding equations Capacity and voltage of a cell equation Battery discharge rate equation DC-DC converters (buck-boost)
  2. I have been asking the engineers from our HVAC PE class to take surveys after they take their HVAC PE CBT exam. Please see the results below. Also if anyone else has taken the HVAC PE CBT exam and would like to contribute their feedback to their survey, please see the link below. 2020 HVAC PE Survey Link: https://forms.gle/R4dcWqR6kesuhFZS7 2020 HVAC PE Survey Results: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1QVwsixRQ9b_tWXuC21qKDftzULEkKW94PKFr6C_tb1g/viewanalytics
  3. My theory as to why there is an uneven amount of problems between the AM and PM session is that the first half includes the Basic Eng Practice (4-6), Thermo (4-6), Psych (7-11), Fluids(3-5), Heat Transfer(6-9), Energy/Mass Balance(4-6) and Heating/Cooling Loads(7-11). The second half includes HVAC Systems(16-24), HVAC Equipment(16-24) and Supportive Knowledge(3-5). Based on the outline, there is a range of the possible number of problems for the 1st half and second half. Assuming this is how the exam is split up. AM Session: 35 to 54 possible problems [Basic Eng Practice (4-6), Thermo (4-6), Psych (7-11), Fluids(3-5), Heat Transfer(6-9), Energy/Mass Balance(4-6) and Heating/Cooling Loads(7-11)] PM Session: 35 to 53 possible problems [HVAC Systems(16-24), HVAC Equipment(16-24) and Supportive Knowledge(3-5)] So this means that 37 problems on the AM session and 43 on the PM session is possible.
  4. Congratulations @MAHMOOD ASLAM QUMMAR and everyone else who passed. I am posting some information from one of our students in our HVAC class who took the exam a couple of weeks ago and passed. I thought the part about the format of the exam was very interesting. Our student lost some time on the second half of the exam because he didn't know how long it would take to get checked back into the afternoon portion of the exam, please see below. I also thought the information on drawing lines in the PDF was interesting. "If you feel good about the NCEES practice exam and the 6-minute problems practice exam you should do fine on the test. Both of those were of similar difficulty and format as the official test. I actually think the Engineering Pro Guides final exam is harder than the official test I took. If you understand psychrometrics, vapor compression cycle, the lever rule, mass balance and the Bernoulli equation you will be in good shape. I think it's important not to second guess yourself on problems. My advice is to read the whole problem twice and really think about what it's asking before jumping into calculations. The test format itself was pretty straight forward. You get a 24 inch computer monitor, on the left side is the NCEES reference manual and the exam is on the right side. The reference manual is searchable and has the same bookmark tabs as the one you download to study with. One thing I wish I knew is you can draw as many lines as you want on the reference manual but you can only delete 10 lines, which is really stupid I think. I ended up with 11 lines at one time and couldn't get rid of the last one so I had a random line on my psych chart for like half of the test which was annoying. The line drawing tool draws black lines that are only slightly more bold than the lines on the psycho chart so be careful that you are reading the correct line. The testing center staff were very serious about security and hand hygiene. I had to use hand sanitizer like 10 times before I sat at my testing station. They will make you wear a mask the entire time your testing. You will have 37 problems in the morning session and 43 in the afternoon. I couldn't tell a difference in the difficulty between morning and afternoon problems. You have to complete and submit the 37 morning questions before taking lunch, you will not be able to go back to those problems after lunch. You get to choose when to take your 50 minute lunch break. You will not get a break before or after lunch, if you need to use the bathroom the clock will continue ticking away while your gone. If you arrive back from lunch after 50 minutes have elapsed the clock will start without you. It took the exam staff like 10 minutes to check me and a few other testers back in after lunch and I lost like 4 minutes from my time which was annoying. I recommend bringing a sack lunch, I would hate to be stressed waiting for food. Give yourself plenty of time to be checked back into the test."
  5. @daydreambeliever The October 2019 PE was the first time we provided an online version of our Power PE class. Please see the raw survey results below. We keep our feedback anonymous and ask for ways to improve. Some of the feedback was difficult to hear, but we definitely are incorporating the feedback into this next upcoming class. Some of the feedback was good too! Engineering Pro Guides Power PE Products Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Y3QCBhonti2TueDxw12-OWIEVYa4kNG7PBmpkoi48_g/viewanalytics Engineering Pro Guides Power PE Course Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/14z6M119We7lZMBWRDJU5b64YB5fKUaGPqG8JtyqXbyE/viewanalytics Pass rate was 12 out of 16. I upgraded our drawing tablet and am pre-recording videos on key concepts and skills to hopefully alleviate the time pressures of the class.
  6. As long as I have been taking the PE exam, I've noticed that Hawaii engineers would sometimes get their notification in the mail first. Do you know if that is the case this time around?

  7. NCEES just released their pass rates for the October 2019 exam. https://ncees.org/engineering/pe/pass-rates/ For context, I have the last pass rates. Feel free to check my math, but it seems like this test was harder than previous tests. October 2019 - Overall pass rate - (1106 x 50% + 726 x 26%) / (1106 + 726) = 40.4% April 2019 - Overall pass rate - 50% October 2018 - Overall pass rate - 43% April 2018 - Overall pass rate - 49% https://www.engproguides.com/power-pe-survey.html
  8. NCEES updated their pass rates. https://ncees.org/engineering/pe/pass-rates/
  9. This is the latest that I have from my survey. I'll post the link once I finish my analysis of the results. I ask people to put their score in terms of number of correct as opposed to percentage. In my opinion, the 55 is probably a percentage, as opposed to 55 out of 80.
  10. Sorry for the delayed response. I use the final exam in the last four weeks of my class. We do a simulated exam broken up into 4, two hour sessions. The problems are different from the full exam. The full exam is used during the first 8 weeks of the class.
  11. That is probably another area where you can get some easy points.
  12. @Mechanical Ryan You can do it! You were so close. Do you work with the ASHRAE Handbooks at your job?
  13. I concur. I definitely rushed to make that webpage. I'll go back later on and translate the information to a table.
  14. My feeling on the cut score is that it is much lower than what was shared. Without a diagnostic report to confirm, it is hard to tell. But I'm just posting the results of the survey and everyone can make their own conclusions. I have been helping people study who did not pass and I have looked at their diagnostic. The highest fail score of the 5 I've seen is 49 out of 80.
  15. I am overly fearful of posting any information that could be construed as sharing actual exam content.
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