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#1 buffteya4

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:23 PM

The name's Steve

Starting a thread to ID which users are taking this exam. Who will I be talking to over the next few months? :)

I will be taking the 2012 Thermal Fluids exam on October 27th 2012 in Carbondale IL.

MY Stuff:

MERM Study Guide
MERM Sample Problems
MERM Formula Sheets for Study Guide
Crane TP 410'
NCEES Thermal Fluids Practice Exam
Cameron Hydraulic Book
Uglys Electrical References
Bible (for spiritual and emotional support! lol!)

I will not be purchasing the 6MS for Thermal Fluids after hearing most of the horror stories from others.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:51 PM

I'd strongly recommend:

- a units convertion book
- ASME steam tables (I prefer them over Mollier diagrams, but you will want something more than what's in the MERM)

Good Luck!

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 11:53 PM

I'll be taking the MechSystems test, but I'm sure we'll talk about the common stuff anyway!

MERM - Manual and sample problems
Shigley's
NCEES 2008 sample exam
Lindeburg's unit conversions
Keenan steam tables
Keenan gas tables (have it, but probably won't use it)

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 05:48 PM

Steve as a heads up in IL you can not take any solution manuals into the test.

I just passed the T/F exam in IL this April and only needed the MERM, my college Thermodynamics book and the ASME Steam tables book.

IL is one of the most strict states, when it comes to the test. Just know where equations are in the MERM and understand the charts both in the chapters and appendix for the fluids, thermo systems, and heat transfer sections.

Hope this help in any way and good luck in October.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:20 PM

Wait, so what on my list can I not take? I was under the impression, after talking with NCEES, that everything I Have is ok?

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:36 PM

The name's Steve

Starting a thread to ID which users are taking this exam. Who will I be talking to over the next few months? :)

I will be taking the 2012 Thermal Fluids exam on October 27th 2012 in Carbondale IL.

MY Stuff:

MERM Study Guide
MERM Sample Problems
MERM Formula Sheets for Study Guide
not sure what these are but sounds like loose papers of sorts
Crane TP 410'
NCEES Thermal Fluids Practice Exam
Cameron Hydraulic Book
Uglys Electrical References
Bible (for spiritual and emotional support! lol!)

I will not be purchasing the 6MS for Thermal Fluids after hearing most of the horror stories from others.

put lines through the things you will not be able to take in the room with you.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:37 PM

Wait, so what on my list can I not take? I was under the impression, after talking with NCEES, that everything I Have is ok?

States can add their own retrictions...and Illinois does add restrictions.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 02:35 PM

I have been studying for the past three months and making a system of 3 ring binders with completed solutions for the upcoming test. This is going to be devestating if I cannot take this stuff into the exam. I wonder if it is too late to switch to MO...

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 02:41 PM

Yep, completed solutions would definitely fall into the no go category.

It is likely too late to switch for the october test.

http://www.idfpr.com...E_SPEC_Exam.pdf IL specifics for what is/isn't allowed

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 05:29 PM

For TF, just bring the MERM, Quick reference, and asme steam table. And practice solve the Lindberg 500 probs, ncees tf, and 6 Sms. You will be fine. No need to bring the cameron, ugly, and the cute.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:58 PM

Just an advise, the proctors are checking what is written in your binders during actual exam and they are very familiar on what is seems to be a solution and what is not. It's better not to bring any page with completed solution in your binder to prevent career devastation and lawsuit.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 03:32 AM

Hello everyone!

Taking the T/F option in Oct as well.

What chapters from MERM do you reommend for reviewing Mechanical Systems & materials (for the morning)?

Thanks.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 02:40 PM

"Just an advise, the proctors are checking what is written in your binders during actual exam and they are very familiar on what is seems to be a solution and what is not. It's better not to bring any page with completed solution in your binder to prevent career devastation and lawsuit."

Your point is taken. I am not worried about "career devastation and lawsuit"
I'll be switching to MO to take the test in April.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:52 PM

Hello everyone!

Taking the T/F option in Oct as well.

What chapters from MERM do you reommend for reviewing Mechanical Systems & materials (for the morning)?

Thanks.


It's probably best to go through all chapters after 13. You should be able to figure out what material is more advanced or specific to mechanical systems and gloss over that part.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

Johnny!

I ordered both of the texts you recommended. I read the reviews and they looked stellar, thanks so much for your information!

Steve

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 05:08 AM

These are the list approved in MO. MERM, 3 ring binder, steam tables, marks handbooks, Lindbergs problem books, 6 sms, except ncees sample problems can be taken inside the exam room and can be used as reference during exam.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:42 PM

You WILL be allowed to use 3 ring binders, solutions manuals, and NCEES material during the PE test starting Fall 2012. Confirmed by continental testing Carrie Penney.
Continental Testing is adopting NCEES standards.

Exam Contact Name: Carrie Penney Email: cpenney@continentaltesting.net Email Us Phone: (708) 354-9911 Ext: 124

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:43 PM

In illinois.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 02:56 AM

I'm taking this test as well. Ben study for the last 8 weeks. I have been working problems nightly. One of the biggest suggestions I have heard is to make sure you cover the HVAC depth well as almost all of HVAC is T/F, so you wil see lots of it. I "may" know some people that took it in April and it was covered heavily. If you have one, it may not be a bad idea to bring in the ASHRAE fundamentals book.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:21 AM

I also did problems from my old university texts. The exam is very similar to the NCEES sample exams. But, I liked studying the longer problems since they forced you to learn all the parts of the system and all the assumptions that come with it, which made you even more prepared on test day.

Good luck.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 03:10 AM

So far I have been able to do all the problems with the MERM. So I'll be taking that along with steam tables and all of the problems I have worked to date. Missouri still allows you to bring in worked problems as long as they are in three ring binders.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:32 PM

Study the gas loops. e.g. Stacks

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:40 PM

study also the fluids flowing in closed and open channels.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 12:15 PM

mizzoueng,

You took the HVAC depth this past Oct 26th? What you said is right! The HVAC depth had a LOT of Thermal/Fluids problems as well in my opinion. I wish I would have studied Thermal/Fluids a little bit more.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:07 PM

Morning was harder than I thought but afternoon was not.

Copied appendix was very useful but you should pay attention the hole of paper not to tear it apart during the exam.
In my case, I used the copied appendix for two months and the hole was ground as I flipped.

My books:
MERM 11th
Copied MERM Appendix with binder
Steam table
Unit conversion

never used:
Gas table
SMS T/F
FE reference book
NCEES sample

Thanks bahowel for shipping the books to Japan..

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:55 PM

The morning went awesome, I felt that I was able to answer most and only had to guess on a couple. But the T and F afternoon section was tougher for me. I ran out of time and had to make some quick decisions on the last 5 or so.

Overall it felt 1000% better than the first time around. I only studied maybe 50 hours the first time and had no business even being there. I wanted to get up and leave but was too stuborn. So after 300 hours and doing it properly this time around it felt awesome being more prepared. This board is so helpful with tips!

Hope the wait goes fast this time around! Best of luck everyone.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:12 AM

I took the TF exam in New York on October 26th. I brought the MERM, NCEES practice exam, and Cameron Hydraulic Data with me, a few hand written notes and that was it. Overall, I feel I did really well. However, this wait is killing me.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:35 AM

@bigwiggz, I took the T/F test this time. I took the Machine Design test in Oct 2010 and didn't pass. I looked at a bunch of HVAC questions as they sometimes show up, they are mostly in line with the T/F concepts.

The morning was mostly straight forward, bt the afternoon was a little more difficult. I chalked most of my difficulties up to over thinking the problems.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:59 AM

is it bad that i keep checking to see if the results have been posted yet?

i mean, my fingers ARE getting tired from being crossed for so long.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:35 AM

Don't worry about it, you will get an email as soon as it hits.

Or, just check here for someone to post that they have hit.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 05:26 PM

Passed T/F Oct 12. I took HVAC last April and it was mostly T/Fand I failed, so I changed to T/F for Oct 12, studied all three specialty topics and passed.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 07:30 PM




I failed my 2nd attempt and getting ready for the 3rd. Really worked hard. Prepared the following books.
Michael Lindberg practice problems
Test masters materials
NCEES Practice problems
NCEES SAMPLE TEST
6 minute solutions
Any other good books or sample question books that you all can suggest? Also which coaching is good? Took testmasters for my 1st attempt.

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Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:37 PM

School of PE!

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Posted 18 December 2012 - 08:49 AM

School of PE prepares you for all three sections. It's a good course

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:20 PM

mizzoueng,

You took the HVAC depth this past Oct 26th? What you said is right! The HVAC depth had a LOT of Thermal/Fluids problems as well in my opinion. I wish I would have studied Thermal/Fluids a little bit more.

I changed from the HVAC in Apr 12 to the Thermal/Fluids in Oct 12 due to this. I also studied all three afternoon topics and glad of it as It help me to pass.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 03:58 PM

:PASSED2:

The straight way to pass: search this forum and do a lot of problem as mentioned everywhere.




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