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#1 Capt Worley PE

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:58 PM

Made it through another winter. Cooking hotdogs and brats to celebrate!

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:03 PM

There wasn't a winter in New England this year. It's pushing 80 today, I'm pissed, and my ass melded with my car seat at lunchtime.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:24 PM

I still can't believe I'm dressed in shorts in March in Northern Illinois. This is a first.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:30 PM

It's pushing 80 today, I'm pissed, and my ass melded with my car seat at lunchtime.


Not what I wanted to picture this afternoon...

I'm just hoping we don't get a blast of winter in April sometime.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:31 PM

It was pushing 90 in your neck of the woods the other day, I doubt you have much to worry about.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:45 PM

84 degrees, wind gusts of about 20mph, sunny and wonderful... except for the green clouds of dust and the green powder coating everything...

I think I'll make some pasta salad and flip some burgers on the grill tonight...

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:46 PM

Wearing boots for probably the last time 'til next winter today...55 this morning, mid 70's the rest of the week, that will be spring here. Next week, we'll be in summer time.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:04 PM

I still can't believe I'm dressed in shorts in March in Northern Illinois. This is a first.

Same here in Southern WI. :rolleyes:

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:10 PM

Spring in Denver ends up meaning a 2' snowstorm to kickoff spring break...

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:16 PM

84 degrees, wind gusts of about 20mph, sunny and wonderful... except for the green clouds of dust and the green powder coating everything...

I think I'll make some pasta salad and flip some burgers on the grill tonight...


I was in the South last week on a trip and had pine pollen all over my car. Fortunately, my allergies have mostly dissipated as I've gotten older, but it was still not a lot of fun.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:19 PM


84 degrees, wind gusts of about 20mph, sunny and wonderful... except for the green clouds of dust and the green powder coating everything...

I think I'll make some pasta salad and flip some burgers on the grill tonight...


I was in the South last week on a trip and had pine pollen all over my car. Fortunately, my allergies have mostly dissipated as I've gotten older, but it was still not a lot of fun.


Supposedly it's not the pine pollen that bothers people. While you can see it and it looks horrible (this coming from a guy with a yellow car that is supposed to be black), it's the oak/grass pollens that would have driven you nuts. So says a friend of mine who is an allergist.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:28 PM



84 degrees, wind gusts of about 20mph, sunny and wonderful... except for the green clouds of dust and the green powder coating everything...

I think I'll make some pasta salad and flip some burgers on the grill tonight...


I was in the South last week on a trip and had pine pollen all over my car. Fortunately, my allergies have mostly dissipated as I've gotten older, but it was still not a lot of fun.


Supposedly it's not the pine pollen that bothers people. While you can see it and it looks horrible (this coming from a guy with a yellow car that is supposed to be black), it's the oak/grass pollens that would have driven you nuts. So says a friend of mine who is an allergist.


I call bull hockey on that one... I ONLY have issues with pine... worthless trees anyway all they are is wildlife habitat and pulpwood... it's not like you can even burn them in your fire place.... grumble grumble grumble...

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:35 PM

^ Just don't try to burn those treated trees, they let off a toxic gas.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:26 PM

Pine trees are basically all we burn here in CO fireplaces. We don't really have much choice otherwise.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:34 PM

The pine issue isn't a big deal in the Northeast where things are mostly deciduous, but I have visited my ex-in-laws a couple of times when it was in season and it wasn't a thrill.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 11:49 PM

Made it through another winter. Cooking hotdogs and brats to celebrate!

What winter? Old man winter was definitely 'light in the loafers' this year, and Spring appears to be AWOL - I guess hello summer

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 10:51 AM

We had zero snow this past winter, and I couldn't be happier.


As for the allergies, I'm glad there are no pine in this area, as it does a number on my asthma. Damn near everything else under the sun makes me sneeze and my eyes water like there's no tomorrow.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 11:42 AM

I call bull hockey on that one... I ONLY have issues with pine... worthless trees anyway all they are is wildlife habitat and pulpwood... it's not like you can even burn them in your fire place.... grumble grumble grumble...


Where's he love for pine? Whole houses are built of the stuff, and that's just about all we ever burned in the fireplace.

Just went with the O-M all beef franks last night. We all sat around on the porch and grilled. Even the two outside cats showed up. Good times.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:07 PM

Hell I never stopped using my grill when 'so-called' winter came through. Here is what our winter looked like.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:16 PM

This winter sucked. I live someplace with 4 distinct seasons, and we basically just went from fall to summer (GFY to some).

I hate scraping ice and snow off my car, I don't like shoveling, and sub-zero temps are pretty darn cold. But I like winter. I am an avid snowshoer, I like cross country skiing, I enjoy watching the snow fall. And we didn't get shit here this year.

The thrill of going out in shirt sleeves for the first time is ruined because it's warm to the point of being uncomfortable. I shouldn't have to turn on the AC in New England in March.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:25 PM

Because our winter was so warm, alot of the pollens that hit those of us with allergies never really "settled", so this spring we're getting hit with all 3 allergy types (trees, grasses, weeds). Usually it's only the trees in the spring, but this last week has started getting miserable.

Time to make my usual investment in Zyrtec & Kleenex...

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:31 PM

I think investing in the weed might be more lucrative.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:34 PM

It's been my experience that weed isn't traded publicly...

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:35 PM

Time to make my usual investment in Playboy & Kleenex...


Ummm, that's a little personal don't ya think?

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:50 PM

Why would I invest in Playboy when we have the interwebs?

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 02:51 PM

We usually bypass either Fall or Spring on a regular basis. This year it seems that we bypassed both Winter and Spring. We had one week where it was somewhat cool (highs in the 40s) and that was it. My grass is fully green now, flowers are blooming and the fish are biting. I do enjoy having distinct seasons but I'm really glad the warm weather is here now.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:16 PM

Because our winter was so warm, alot of the pollens that hit those of us with allergies never really "settled", so this spring we're getting hit with all 3 allergy types (trees, grasses, weeds). Usually it's only the trees in the spring, but this last week has started getting miserable.

Time to make my usual investment in Zyrtec & Kleenex...


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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:34 PM

It's been my experience that weed isn't traded publicly...


Tell that to the college kids in the Wal-Mart parking lot next to us a few weekends back. We were loading groceries and the kids sat in their car as an "interesting" car pulled beside them and things got exchanged. We started laughing and they knew the jig was up. They grinned and hauled ass.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:05 PM

its still march and I have a half dozen mosquitto bites already and I was outside for less than an hr.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:21 PM

I got at least a cord of wood that I split myself early fall, had one fire the entire winter... no clue what the hell I will do with a cord of wood this summer..

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:23 PM

camp fires in the yard with hotdogs and smores
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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:23 PM


It's been my experience that weed isn't traded publicly...


Tell that to the college kids in the Wal-Mart parking lot next to us a few weekends back. We were loading groceries and the kids sat in their car as an "interesting" car pulled beside them and things got exchanged. We started laughing and they knew the jig was up. They grinned and hauled ass.


You should have meandered off somewhere and called the cops on them. I'd head back into Wally Mart for a beach chair and bag of chips and watch the fun.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:30 PM

I got at least a cord of wood that I split myself early fall, had one fire the entire winter... no clue what the hell I will do with a cord of wood this summer..


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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:35 PM

This sounds like a problem best solved in the morning.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 04:56 PM



It's been my experience that weed isn't traded publicly...


Tell that to the college kids in the Wal-Mart parking lot next to us a few weekends back. We were loading groceries and the kids sat in their car as an "interesting" car pulled beside them and things got exchanged. We started laughing and they knew the jig was up. They grinned and hauled ass.


You should have meandered off somewhere and called the cops on them. I'd head back into Wally Mart for a beach chair and bag of chips and watch the fun.


Meh, they looked like the band geek, innocent puppy type of kids. To answer questions on a police report about a small bag of weed is nothing I care to do.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:23 PM

No-see-ums are out in force now. I hate those frigging things. They made baseball practice miserable. I'm hoping the heat arrives soon and kills the bastards off.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 02:46 PM

Played Farmer Brown this weekend. We got a lot of flowers from the local farmers market, and planted tomato, squash, cucumber, and green pepper plants as well as seeded some carrots, cucumbers, bell peppers, and onions.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:31 PM

Got the ball rolling on getting the landscaping in the backyard. I spent the better part of yesterday trying to fill-in some of the low spots in the grade so it's ready to start laying out sprinkler systems. Based on my survey (yes, I actually surveyed the yard), I still need about 20CY of fill dirt to get the yard built up to how I want it, so for the next couple of weeks I will be stealing dirt from the adjacent lot (still under construction with a ton of extra material the superintendent said I could have) by the wheel-barrow load.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:34 PM

Dude, 20 cubic yards by wheelbarrow. That sounds like a bitch.

As a side note, and maybe this doesn't go in this thread, I'm looking at putting in a sprinkler system as well. However, I want to install a shallow well so I don't have to pay for water. I've read some info online about it and I think where I am I can hit water at 40 feet. Anyone have any experience with this?

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:38 PM

Got the ball rolling on getting the landscaping in the backyard. I spent the better part of yesterday trying to fill-in some of the low spots in the grade so it's ready to start laying out sprinkler systems. Based on my survey (yes, I actually surveyed the yard), I still need about 20CY of fill dirt to get the yard built up to how I want it, so for the next couple of weeks I will be stealing dirt from the adjacent lot (still under construction with a ton of extra material the superintendent said I could have) by the wheel-barrow load.


Protip: Call the city and have a separate tap and meter installed for the sprinkler. That way you just pay water fees instead of water/sewer fees you'd pay if you fed the sprinklers off the house.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:00 PM

^^^ Our waterbill is setup based off of a winter-use baseline. They basically average our usage from Nov-Feb and use that to calculate our sewer & water rates. Then they establish a tier system based on that average: There's a Tier 1 rate for indoor use (~$4 per 1000gal for up to 5000 gal), a tier 2 rate for outdoor use (~$5 with a max based on irrigated area), then have tiers 3 & 4 to handle excess use with progressive costs based on excess use.

The joys of living in a semi-arid area within a water conservation district. They take their usage very seriously.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 07:50 PM

Bring some of that dirt my way, Dex. There is a low spot in my backyard between the neighbor's property line and the middle of mine (high at fence, dips, back up in the middle, then gradual slope towards other neighbor). Because of it, the grass in that area is a nightmare. Even a light rain makes you feel like you're walking on a sponge, as it gets all muddy and perpetually "squishes" beneath your feet for days until it dries out.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:36 PM

Most of the dirt we have in the backyard is clay, so it gets the same way. It makes the top 1/2" get very slippery and nasty and the grade below it rock solid once it dries. The material I'd be hauling in is a sandy top-soil material which should help when I rototill it in.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:25 AM

Dex - took some Aussie friends to Canyonlands and Arches this past weekend. Couldn't believe the temps. in the desert. Trees were budding in your neck of the woods. Heck, I barely have snow in my front yard here at 9,950'.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:29 AM

It's been my experience that weed isn't traded publicly...


It is in Colorado

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 04:55 AM

Damn, I've give good money to see Canyonlands and Arches again.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:58 PM

Only $10 per vehicle, but the airfare from NE might make that a bit more expensive.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 04:17 PM

Damn, I've give good money to see Canyonlands and Arches again.


I'm headed out there the day after Thansgiving. Planning to do the White Rim trail at Canyonlands. Hoping to mountain bike it while some of my friends drive. Camping out there two night.

cdc is right, airfare is horrendous, looking at $500+ to fly into Grand Junction. Not much less to Salt Lake City.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:04 PM

Moab is an awesome town, you'll love it.

The two parks are something like 25 miles apart, but you feel like you are in completely different places. If you get the chance, Mesa Verde is about 3 hours in one direction, Petrified Forest several hours in the other direction. Both are amazing places. Walnut Canyon and Meteor Crater are also in the vicinity. did an amazing roadtrip of the desert southwest in 06, I'd be happy to play travel agent.




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