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#1 Nickarus

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 11:17 PM

Hi everyone!

I'm studying for the April 2011 Architectural Engineering PE exam, and have a few questions for anyone else out there who may have walked or is currently treading this path:

1. I noticed the practice exam has a question or two involving the AIA contract docs, but none of the suggested reference material really covers them iirc... is there any suggested reading (besides reading all the AIA docs - eek!) that would be sufficient for those of us who don't handle these on a day-to-day basis? If the only real good source are the contract docs themselves, is the exam supposed to cover everything or may we limit our review to a few choice docs?

2. I've got my hands on the Second Edition of the "Principles and Practice of Engineering: Architectural Engineering Sample Questions and Solutions." After burning through this tiny booklet, I really wish I had more in the way of practice test materials to feel comfortable... If I seek out the first edition does it contain different problems or is the 2nd edition just a corrected 1st edition? Is there really anything else out there with sample questions to practice?

Thanks much!

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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:04 AM

The first edition is similar to the second and doesn't offer the level of detail in the solutions like you can get with the 6-Minute books. I'm studying for the April 2011 AE PE myself and it's quite frustrating.

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Posted 19 January 2011 - 11:51 PM

I too am in the same pickle. You'd think that since it's been a few years since this exam was offered that there would be more study materials out there. I'm trained as an ME but the AE exam seems more suited to my skillset. I just want to know if I'm shooting myself in the foot by taking the AE exam versus the ME HVAC exam (which I have not directly practiced in a number of years).

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Posted 18 February 2011 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE (LEEDengineer @ Jan 15 2011, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The first edition is similar to the second and doesn't offer the level of detail in the solutions like you can get with the 6-Minute books. I'm studying for the April 2011 AE PE myself and it's quite frustrating.


I managed to get a copy of the 1st edition before reading this advice and can confirm: no reason to seek out both editions - the 2nd is an updated/improved version of the 1st.

I did pick up a good tip on my own: I spent a lot of time seeking/printing/reviewing MEP fundamentals (i.e. pump laws, electrical triangles, structural beam flex/moment formulas) before remembering this stuff is already compiled neatly in the FE exam reference handbook... I didn't save (or can't find) my hard copy from college, but it's free and available as a PDF on the NCEES website (you might need to log in)!

I'm planning to print that out (its big), filter through and tab out content covered in the AE exam, and put that in a binder for a reference next time I can find a block of time wink.gif.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 06:08 PM

hi everyone,
I passed the AE exam in April and it was definitely challenging trying to study for the exam given the limited study prep material.
I have an Architectural Engineering degree but really never worked directly in design, most of my experience is in the field of Construction Management. I found the exam wasn't too bad as far as being familiar with all the questions and having ample time to answer everything except for those few guesses.

I posted in another forum what I used most in the exam as far as reference materials about a year ago so if you search the forum for AE study you will find the thread, it has good information of how other prepared for the exam. I basically studied by going through the 2nd edition of the practice guide and finding my week points then putting more emphasis on those. I would suggest going through the study guide in detail and writing out all the solutions knowing them inside and out. (there are ever a few questions right from the book, word for word) I also found helpful and old CERM manual that one of the older engineers in my firm gave me, it was dated from 1982 but i found the structural review topics really helpful and the problems were relevant to the type on the exam. I would also suggest absolutely having the NEC Handbook if you can get the full version (I had the 2002 which is sufficient) then I had a great referenece that covers alot of the material on the examwhich I had from college, it is called Mechanical and Electrical Equipment for Buildings (just a great overall reference and practical - came in handy in the exam for looking stuff up) I also used a concrete and steel textbook i borrowed off of another engineer (get one that references the ACI and LRFD) These are much easier that paging through the Steel and concrete manuals for the people like me that aren't strong in structures. I also went to the web site engineeringtoolbox to pickup short refreshers on specific topics and get right to the necessary formulas. I printed and organized them by topic then put them in a 3 ring binder (i think most states allow this type of binding just not loose papers - so check with your requirements by state) I learned of the 6 minute solutions after the exam so i wasnt able to have those but i think they would have helped alot.
I ended bringing about 20-25 books into the exam but really only used 5-6 of them.

if anyone has any other quesitons drop me a note or i will check back to this post.
and good luck studying if I can do you all can too!

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Posted 27 March 2011 - 08:17 PM

QUOTE (archeng1 @ Mar 3 2011, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi everyone,
I passed the AE exam in April and it was definitely challenging trying to study for the exam given the limited study prep material.
I have an Architectural Engineering degree but really never worked directly in design, most of my experience is in the field of Construction Management. I found the exam wasn't too bad as far as being familiar with all the questions and having ample time to answer everything except for those few guesses.

I posted in another forum what I used most in the exam as far as reference materials about a year ago so if you search the forum for AE study you will find the thread, it has good information of how other prepared for the exam. I basically studied by going through the 2nd edition of the practice guide and finding my week points then putting more emphasis on those. I would suggest going through the study guide in detail and writing out all the solutions knowing them inside and out. (there are ever a few questions right from the book, word for word) I also found helpful and old CERM manual that one of the older engineers in my firm gave me, it was dated from 1982 but i found the structural review topics really helpful and the problems were relevant to the type on the exam. I would also suggest absolutely having the NEC Handbook if you can get the full version (I had the 2002 which is sufficient) then I had a great referenece that covers alot of the material on the examwhich I had from college, it is called Mechanical and Electrical Equipment for Buildings (just a great overall reference and practical - came in handy in the exam for looking stuff up) I also used a concrete and steel textbook i borrowed off of another engineer (get one that references the ACI and LRFD) These are much easier that paging through the Steel and concrete manuals for the people like me that aren't strong in structures. I also went to the web site engineeringtoolbox to pickup short refreshers on specific topics and get right to the necessary formulas. I printed and organized them by topic then put them in a 3 ring binder (i think most states allow this type of binding just not loose papers - so check with your requirements by state) I learned of the 6 minute solutions after the exam so i wasnt able to have those but i think they would have helped alot.
I ended bringing about 20-25 books into the exam but really only used 5-6 of them.

if anyone has any other quesitons drop me a note or i will check back to this post.
and good luck studying if I can do you all can too!


What "6 minute solutions" are you referring too? I haven't found one for Architectural. I saw your post in the other forum. It was extremely useful. I just finished going through the sample questions and feeling comfortable......I hope.....been out of school since 2001 and haven't taken an exam in 9 years. I have an AET degree from the University of Cincinnati and have found my old reference materials very useful. I purchased an updated Mechanical and Electrical Equipment for Buildings and I'm trying to skim through it again before taking the test.

What steel book did you use? We were taught straight from the LRFD and briefly touched on ASD. I was going to purchase "Steel Structures Design: ASD/LRFD" by Alan Williams from Amazon.com as it was pretty new and references the newer additions of the steel manuals.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (kbales @ Mar 27 2011, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (archeng1 @ Mar 3 2011, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hi everyone,
I passed the AE exam in April and it was definitely challenging trying to study for the exam given the limited study prep material.
I have an Architectural Engineering degree but really never worked directly in design, most of my experience is in the field of Construction Management. I found the exam wasn't too bad as far as being familiar with all the questions and having ample time to answer everything except for those few guesses.

I posted in another forum what I used most in the exam as far as reference materials about a year ago so if you search the forum for AE study you will find the thread, it has good information of how other prepared for the exam. I basically studied by going through the 2nd edition of the practice guide and finding my week points then putting more emphasis on those. I would suggest going through the study guide in detail and writing out all the solutions knowing them inside and out. (there are ever a few questions right from the book, word for word) I also found helpful and old CERM manual that one of the older engineers in my firm gave me, it was dated from 1982 but i found the structural review topics really helpful and the problems were relevant to the type on the exam. I would also suggest absolutely having the NEC Handbook if you can get the full version (I had the 2002 which is sufficient) then I had a great referenece that covers alot of the material on the examwhich I had from college, it is called Mechanical and Electrical Equipment for Buildings (just a great overall reference and practical - came in handy in the exam for looking stuff up) I also used a concrete and steel textbook i borrowed off of another engineer (get one that references the ACI and LRFD) These are much easier that paging through the Steel and concrete manuals for the people like me that aren't strong in structures. I also went to the web site engineeringtoolbox to pickup short refreshers on specific topics and get right to the necessary formulas. I printed and organized them by topic then put them in a 3 ring binder (i think most states allow this type of binding just not loose papers - so check with your requirements by state) I learned of the 6 minute solutions after the exam so i wasnt able to have those but i think they would have helped alot.
I ended bringing about 20-25 books into the exam but really only used 5-6 of them.

if anyone has any other quesitons drop me a note or i will check back to this post.
and good luck studying if I can do you all can too!


What "6 minute solutions" are you referring too? I haven't found one for Architectural. I saw your post in the other forum. It was extremely useful. I just finished going through the sample questions and feeling comfortable......I hope.....been out of school since 2001 and haven't taken an exam in 9 years. I have an AET degree from the University of Cincinnati and have found my old reference materials very useful. I purchased an updated Mechanical and Electrical Equipment for Buildings and I'm trying to skim through it again before taking the test.

What steel book did you use? We were taught straight from the LRFD and briefly touched on ASD. I was going to purchase "Steel Structures Design: ASD/LRFD" by Alan Williams from Amazon.com as it was pretty new and references the newer additions of the steel manuals.


I'm not sure about the 6-minute books (I suppose you could pull one from each discipline but that's surely excessive prepping). I just finished my exam, and can say the recommended references published in the practice exam and available on AEI's website, are pretty spot on. The ASTM Steel manual (mine is 13th ed. - black hardbound cover) was certainly helpful during the test, and doubles as a swingable blunt object if you are attacked by zombies on the way to the testing site.

I'm sitting on my hands till I get my letter, but if everything goes well and I pass, I promise to give a full writeup of what/how I studied, what I brought and how I prepared mentally... but I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch!

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 03:23 PM

I just found out that I passed the AE PE in Illinois so I thought I'd share my experience since there is very little study info out there for the exam.

A little about me:

I work for a large architectural firm which has its own in house technology design studio to cover the design of all things low voltage including audiovisual, telecom, security, medical communications, wireless, acoustics, etc... Most of what I do on a daily basis is audiovisual system design with some electrical, mechanical, acoustics and lighting as it relates to my AV systems.

My study prep:

I bought the second edition study guide "Principles and Practice of Engineering: Architectural Engineering Sample Questions and Solutions" in December before the exam and used that as my basis for what the exam would cover. I would say that that guide is a pretty good gauge of what the exam covers and what topics you should be familiar with walking in there. Almost every question was a variation on a theme brought up in that book (as any good reference guide should be). Plus the book gives a good mix of the different types of questions:

1) Pure calculation - find the equation, analyze XYZ and crunch out an answer
2) Code/Standard reference - given XYZ situation find the answer based on some code may include some calculation
3) General AE knowledge - I would normally say there are "experience" questions, but I was able to look up some in the references I had.

I just worked all the problems in the books and wrote down all the fundamental equations used in them, or flagged my reference material based on the question. Google was my friend on some of them where I didn't have a specific reference.

Complete book list that I used and brought into the exam:

NEC Handbook (2005)
IBC (2006)
Mechanical and Electrical Equipment for Buildings (11th Edition)
ACI 318
AISC (Steel Construction manual 9th edition)
NDS Nation design spec for Wood Construction
NFPA 101 (life safety code)
Pocket Ref (Thomas Glover)
Ugly's Electrical Reference (2011 edition)

Books I wish I had:

ASCE 7 (Minimum Design Loads for Building)
Civil Engineering Review Manual (Lindenburg)
NFPA 72 (national fire alarm code)
An HVAC text book or reference - some of the ASHRE books might have accomplished this.

I would say that the three most valuable books were the Mech and Elec Equipment for Buildings, the Pocket Ref and the Ugly's Electrical Guide. The Pocket ref and the Ugly's Guide cost a grand total of $25 on Amazon so no one should go without them. I probably used them on at least a third of the questions. the Ugly's guide pulls the most important parts of the NEC and puts them in a quick easy to read format plus has all sorts of useful equations. Same with the pocket ref, it takes the most important look up tables form the other standards and puts it all in one book. I liked the Pocket ref so much after using it to study and in the exam, I bought the full sized Desk Ref to keep at work.

Obviously the code books are important as well because so much of the AE industry is geared towards code compliance. So I would get as many of those on the Reference Material list as you can and just have them in the exam, just in-case.

Hope that helps anyone who is studying if not, feel free to ask any additional questions!

-Dave








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Posted 27 May 2011 - 04:08 AM

Great post and congrats!! I just found out I passed too (also AE + Illinois)!!! When I return from vaca I will definitely have to post my rundown and my final list of books. Looks like we wish we had included some of the same books! LOL




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