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#1 badal

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 02:23 PM

I was looking at the CMP guide to see how much im going to have to pay these guys to use their logo when i came across this "The LEED AP without specialty credential is held in perpetuity and does not have any credential maintenance requirements or fees." I took the LEED AP BD & C. So does this mean if at the end of two years i havent completed 30 hrs of ce and i havent given them 50$, i can use the LEED AP just not the BD & C? or does this only apply to those that tested before there were specialty tests?

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Posted 02 September 2010 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE (badal @ Jul 13 2010, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was looking at the CMP guide to see how much im going to have to pay these guys to use their logo when i came across this "The LEED AP without specialty credential is held in perpetuity and does not have any credential maintenance requirements or fees." I took the LEED AP BD & C. So does this mean if at the end of two years i havent completed 30 hrs of ce and i havent given them 50$, i can use the LEED AP just not the BD & C? or does this only apply to those that tested before there were specialty tests?



To my knowledge, it's just to the legacy guys...

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Posted 03 September 2010 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE (jmbeck @ Sep 2 2010, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (badal @ Jul 13 2010, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was looking at the CMP guide to see how much im going to have to pay these guys to use their logo when i came across this "The LEED AP without specialty credential is held in perpetuity and does not have any credential maintenance requirements or fees." I took the LEED AP BD & C. So does this mean if at the end of two years i havent completed 30 hrs of ce and i havent given them 50$, i can use the LEED AP just not the BD & C? or does this only apply to those that tested before there were specialty tests?



To my knowledge, it's just to the legacy guys...



I'm pretty sure that's the case.

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Posted 08 September 2010 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (jmbeck @ Sep 2 2010, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (badal @ Jul 13 2010, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was looking at the CMP guide to see how much im going to have to pay these guys to use their logo when i came across this "The LEED AP without specialty credential is held in perpetuity and does not have any credential maintenance requirements or fees." I took the LEED AP BD & C. So does this mean if at the end of two years i havent completed 30 hrs of ce and i havent given them 50$, i can use the LEED AP just not the BD & C? or does this only apply to those that tested before there were specialty tests?



To my knowledge, it's just to the legacy guys...

I'm glad I am one of the legacy guys. The requirements to keep the extra letters after LEED AP are way more difficult than what it is required to keep PE after my name.

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Posted 14 December 2010 - 05:08 AM

Sounds like I am a chump for not just staying as a legacy and getting a specialization....

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Posted 22 December 2010 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (craftj2 @ Dec 13 2010, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds like I am a chump for not just staying as a legacy and getting a specialization....


It looks like LEED 2012 is going to require an AP w/ specialty to get the LEED AP credit. I have a feeling this will eventually become a prereq.

In related news, LEED 2012 is up for public comment: http://www.usgbc.org...?CMSPageID=2360

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 03:53 PM

QUOTE (menstrom @ Dec 22 2010, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (craftj2 @ Dec 13 2010, 11:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sounds like I am a chump for not just staying as a legacy and getting a specialization....


It looks like LEED 2012 is going to require an AP w/ specialty to get the LEED AP credit. I have a feeling this will eventually become a prereq.

In related news, LEED 2012 is up for public comment: http://www.usgbc.org...?CMSPageID=2360


For "legacy" LEED APs, it is currently free to enroll, and then you have two years to get your CEUs. If during that time you decide the specialty is not worth the effort and expense, simply don't do anything, you will revert back to AP without specialty at the end of the period and not be out anything. Makes sense to me given the LEED 2012 may well make legacy APs obsolete, in fact a LEED Green Associate has more pull in the new system (as it is written in its draft form anyhow). At least to sit and watch the drama unfold it makes some sense to enroll at least to keep your options open for now.

For those "specialized" LEED AP's, ie those who tested under LEED 2009, too bad, you're stuck with the CEUs, and if you don't do them, you're left with nada at the end of the 2 year reporting period.

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 02:59 AM

you don't lose your legacy LEED AP when you opt into a specialty; I have three specialties and also am a legacy LEED AP and it shows up as so when you look in the LEED AP directory.

The CEUs aren't that bad - a big chunk of them can be "general hours" which probably the work at your job will count for (mine does)...

Also - it might be cheaper just to retake the exams, they're really not that bad

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (elyse613 @ Dec 25 2010, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you don't lose your legacy LEED AP when you opt into a specialty; I have three specialties and also am a legacy LEED AP and it shows up as so when you look in the LEED AP directory.

The CEUs aren't that bad - a big chunk of them can be "general hours" which probably the work at your job will count for (mine does)...

Also - it might be cheaper just to retake the exams, they're really not that bad



I would definitely argue with your "cheaper" claim since there are 93 (and counting) free USGBC certified CEU courses here: http://continuingedu...ycat1.php?cat=M

I'm at 27 hours and haven't paid a dime yet.

Edited by menstrom, 27 December 2010 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 27 December 2010 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE (menstrom @ Dec 27 2010, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (elyse613 @ Dec 25 2010, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you don't lose your legacy LEED AP when you opt into a specialty; I have three specialties and also am a legacy LEED AP and it shows up as so when you look in the LEED AP directory.

The CEUs aren't that bad - a big chunk of them can be "general hours" which probably the work at your job will count for (mine does)...

Also - it might be cheaper just to retake the exams, they're really not that bad



I would definitely argue with your "cheaper" claim since there are 93 (and counting) free USGBC certified CEU courses here: http://continuingedu...ycat1.php?cat=M

I'm at 27 hours and haven't paid a dime yet.


Only problem is with the specialty hours. Only six approved LEED specific hours in free webinar format exist as of today (Ingersoll Rand/Trane webinars). Works for the first cycle. I hope more come along in two years.

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Posted 28 December 2010 - 12:33 AM

Right exactly - I have three specialties, so getting the LEED-specific hours is where the problem comes in... my company has calculated that it's cheaper just to reimburse the exam. Between the price of the LEED-specific courses as well as the hours that we would then be billing, it's cheaper to pay the $150 to retake the exam

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Posted 22 March 2011 - 07:10 PM

I passed LEED AP exam in May 2009. Do I need any CE Hours to maintain my LEED AP title? Thanks

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Posted 29 March 2011 - 02:13 PM

QUOTE (schok108 @ Mar 22 2011, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I passed LEED AP exam in May 2009. Do I need any CE Hours to maintain my LEED AP title? Thanks


Nope. You are a LEED AP now and forever more as you tested under LEED v 2.2. You may want to keep in mind that it looks like LEED 2012 will make LEED APs without specialty less relevant. There is a credit in Innovation in Design/Operations that under LEED 2009 requires any LEED AP to be working in a principal role in the project. Under 2012 it will now require a LEED AP specialized in the specialty of the project as principal & two LEED APs of any specialty OR two Green Associates. Long story short, unless you enroll to the new system and do the CE Hours, you will not be able to earn that point... Does that matter to you?




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