33 replies to this topic

[moonboon]

Anybody got the result for PTOE/ PTP June 2010 window tests?

Edited by moonboon, 09 July 2010 - 05:03 PM.

[JSS]

Anybody got the result for PTOE/ PTP June 2010 window tests?

I think PTOE results are mailed out 4-6 weeks after the testing period ends. This Wednesday, July 28, will be 4 weeks since the end of the testing period (which ended June 30). So hopefully results will be mailed soon

[moonboon]

NOT YET?????

[JSS]

NOT YET?????

nothing yet...

[matt5669]

NOT YET?????

nothing yet...

Anything yet????????????????????

[moonboon]

Contacted Ms. Ann O'Neill, August 3rd, she said she's still waiting for the results!! It's really annoying for us and embarrassing for them to wait this long for a computer base test result!!!!! TPCB should change this.

[JSS]

Contacted Ms. Ann O'Neill, August 3rd, she said she's still waiting for the results!! It's really annoying for us and embarrassing for them to wait this long for a computer base test result!!!!! TPCB should change this.

I agree, there's no reason we should have to wait this long. I understand not giving immediate results, because other people may be taking the test later in the same month. But there's no technical reason (that I can think of) why results can't be sent out within 1 week of the end of the testing period.

Today is now 5 weeks since the end of the testing period, so we're still within the 4-6 week range that they told us.

[moonboon]

I don't believe it!!! No result yet!!!!

[matt5669]

I don't believe it!!! No result yet!!!!

did anybody hear yet????

[moonboon]

Nothing!! I called them and Ann is on vacation. I presume this is a racquet science and no body else can do it!!!!! Everybody should suffer until she's back. What a stupid system!!!

[matt5669]

Nothing!! I called them and Ann is on vacation. I presume this is a racquet science and no body else can do it!!!!! Everybody should suffer until she's back. What a stupid system!!!

ANY NEWS from ANN or anybody????????

[JSS]

Nothing!! I called them and Ann is on vacation. I presume this is a racquet science and no body else can do it!!!!! Everybody should suffer until she's back. What a stupid system!!!

ANY NEWS from ANN or anybody????????

no news yet. We're definitely outside the 4-6 weeks after the testing period ends. This Wed (Aug 18) will be 7 weeks since the end of the testing period.

[midwestpe]

I sent an email last week and have not heard anything back yet. Its a computer base test with less than 100 people taking it during any testing period. There is absolutely no excuse that it takes 7+ weeks to know if you passed.

Nothing!! I called them and Ann is on vacation. I presume this is a racquet science and no body else can do it!!!!! Everybody should suffer until she's back. What a stupid system!!!

ANY NEWS from ANN or anybody????????

no news yet. We're definitely outside the 4-6 weeks after the testing period ends. This Wed (Aug 18) will be 7 weeks since the end of the testing period.

[mattg]

My boss just stopped by my office asking if I received my pass/fail notice so I could update my resume for a proposal that we are working on. Since I haven’t received it yet I can't include it in the proposal. The delay does have tangible repercussions!

[matt5669]

My boss just stopped by my office asking if I received my pass/fail notice so I could update my resume for a proposal that we are working on. Since I haven’t received it yet I can't include it in the proposal. The delay does have tangible repercussions!

nothing today either?????????

[midwestpe]

My boss just stopped by my office asking if I received my pass/fail notice so I could update my resume for a proposal that we are working on. Since I haven’t received it yet I can't include it in the proposal. The delay does have tangible repercussions!

nothing today either?????????

According to ITE the results are in the mail....

[moonboon]

Anybody?

[JSS]

Anybody?

My letter came in today's mail. I passed!!

[JSS]

A little more detail, now that I've read through the letter a few times.
Total PTOE candidates in June 2010 = 46
Total Passing = 33

pass rate = 72%

I had heard about/read about past tests, and a pass rate of ~85%. I don't really know if that's true or not, but I am curious how the June 2010 test compared to previous exams...

[midwestpe]

A little more detail, now that I've read through the letter a few times.
Total PTOE candidates in June 2010 = 46
Total Passing = 33

pass rate = 72%

I had heard about/read about past tests, and a pass rate of ~85%. I don't really know if that's true or not, but I am curious how the June 2010 test compared to previous exams...

No letter for me yet. Just curious but is your name in the directory now? A coworker saw her name in the directory before she got the letter a couple tests ago

[JSS]

A little more detail, now that I've read through the letter a few times.
Total PTOE candidates in June 2010 = 46
Total Passing = 33

pass rate = 72%

I had heard about/read about past tests, and a pass rate of ~85%. I don't really know if that's true or not, but I am curious how the June 2010 test compared to previous exams...

No letter for me yet. Just curious but is your name in the directory now? A coworker saw her name in the directory before she got the letter a couple tests ago

No, my name is not yet in the online directory.

and from what I can tell, none of the June 2010 test takers are in the online directory yet.

If you do a search with all the fields blank, but check the PTOE box, it say this at the top:
2343 results were found , 100 are displayed.

and I've been checking multiple times a day for the past couple of weeks. it was 2343 PTOE's before the June 2010 results, and right now, it still is 2343 PTOE's. If this number goes up to 2376, then you'll know that the 33 new PTOE's have been added.

[midwestpe]

Awesome thanks for that hint... I had been checking the directory hoping I'd find out there before the letter... Maybe tomorrow... I don't remember if it's going to my work or my home

[mattg]

Letter from ITE came yesterday 8/23 with a report of a passing score.

[matt5669]

Letter from ITE came yesterday 8/23 with a report of a passing score.

Congratulations....I am still waiting.....what is the passing score, if there is any?

[JSS]

what is the passing score, if there is any?

They don't say what the passing score is. However, for each catergory of questions, and for the test overall, they give the low score, the high score, and the average.

For June 2010, the low score was 43%, the high was 88%, and the average was 67%.
of course, this still tells us nothing about what was needed to pass the exam (but it is interesting, none the less).

[matt5669]

what is the passing score, if there is any?

They don't say what the passing score is. However, for each catergory of questions, and for the test overall, they give the low score, the high score, and the average.

For June 2010, the low score was 43%, the high was 88%, and the average was 67%.
of course, this still tells us nothing about what was needed to pass the exam (but it is interesting, none the less).

Does this mean that the passing percentage is 67%??

[JSS]

Does this mean that the passing percentage is 67%??

no, I don't think we can assume that. As I said in my previous post, the low score was 43%.
If the 13 people who did not pass all scored in the 40-50% range, that would bring down the average significantly. In that case, it is likely that the passing score would be higher than the average.

Basically, we just don't know with the information that we have.

[matt5669]

Does this mean that the passing percentage is 67%??

no, I don't think we can assume that. As I said in my previous post, the low score was 43%.
If the 13 people who did not pass all scored in the 40-50% range, that would bring down the average significantly. In that case, it is likely that the passing score would be higher than the average.

Basically, we just don't know with the information that we have.

So, somebdo with 67% score can still fail the test???

[JSS]

So, somebody with 67% score can still fail the test???

maybe. maybe not. we don't know what the minimum passing score is. All we know is the best score, the worst score, and the average score.

[matt5669]

So, somebody with 67% score can still fail the test???

maybe. maybe not. we don't know what the minimum passing score is. All we know is the best score, the worst score, and the average score.

That seems to be not fair or correct. If your pass or fail depends on the group of individuals that take the test each time?? It is not consistenet? Your fate depends on th group? If there are some Ph.Ds taking the test in your group, you are screwed?

[JSS]

So, somebody with 67% score can still fail the test???

maybe. maybe not. we don't know what the minimum passing score is. All we know is the best score, the worst score, and the average score.

That seems to be not fair or correct. If your pass or fail depends on the group of individuals that take the test each time?? It is not consistenet? Your fate depends on th group? If there are some Ph.Ds taking the test in your group, you are screwed?

that's not what I am saying at all. I'm sure there is a "standard" minimum score. and because there is an independent standard, the average of the 46 June 2010 test takers doesn't matter at all. But we don't know what the minimum passing score is. All we know is the average score from June 2010. But as I've been saying all along, that doesn't mean anything when it comes to minimum passing score.

[matt5669]

A little more detail, now that I've read through the letter a few times.
Total PTOE candidates in June 2010 = 46
Total Passing = 33

pass rate = 72%

I had heard about/read about past tests, and a pass rate of ~85%. I don't really know if that's true or not, but I am curious how the June 2010 test compared to previous exams...

No letter for me yet. Just curious but is your name in the directory now? A coworker saw her name in the directory before she got the letter a couple tests ago

No, my name is not yet in the online directory.

and from what I can tell, none of the June 2010 test takers are in the online directory yet.

If you do a search with all the fields blank, but check the PTOE box, it say this at the top:
2343 results were found , 100 are displayed.

and I've been checking multiple times a day for the past couple of weeks. it was 2343 PTOE's before the June 2010 results, and right now, it still is 2343 PTOE's. If this number goes up to 2376, then you'll know that the 33 new PTOE's have been added.

THERE ARE 2,340 CERTIFIED PROFESSIONALS AS OF APRIL 28 , 2010. This is what I see on ITE website. Where did you see 2,343? Thanks.

[matt5669]

So, somebody with 67% score can still fail the test???

maybe. maybe not. we don't know what the minimum passing score is. All we know is the best score, the worst score, and the average score.

That seems to be not fair or correct. If your pass or fail depends on the group of individuals that take the test each time?? It is not consistenet? Your fate depends on th group? If there are some Ph.Ds taking the test in your group, you are screwed?

that's not what I am saying at all. I'm sure there is a "standard" minimum score. and because there is an independent standard, the average of the 46 June 2010 test takers doesn't matter at all. But we don't know what the minimum passing score is. All we know is the average score from June 2010. But as I've been saying all along, that doesn't mean anything when it comes to minimum passing score.

I understand what you are saying. What I am saying is that you need to know what the passing score is. I know the highest score, lowest score, the average and my score. So what? It tells you whether you passed or not. If you pass, you are OK and Happy. But the for the people, who failed, how do they know what the passing score was? If you take PE, FE or other Traffic Engineering exams like in CA or OR, it is not like this, is it? Few years back, if you had CA Traffic Engineer's licence, they gave PTOE certification if you apply. There does not seem to be a standadrd for this test. Something seems to be not correct with PTOE is all that I am saying. Nothing against those passed or failed.

[matt5669]

So, somebody with 67% score can still fail the test???

maybe. maybe not. we don't know what the minimum passing score is. All we know is the best score, the worst score, and the average score.

That seems to be not fair or correct. If your pass or fail depends on the group of individuals that take the test each time?? It is not consistenet? Your fate depends on th group? If there are some Ph.Ds taking the test in your group, you are screwed?

that's not what I am saying at all. I'm sure there is a "standard" minimum score. and because there is an independent standard, the average of the 46 June 2010 test takers doesn't matter at all. But we don't know what the minimum passing score is. All we know is the average score from June 2010. But as I've been saying all along, that doesn't mean anything when it comes to minimum passing score.

I understand what you are saying. What I am saying is that you need to know what the passing score is. I know the highest score, lowest score, the average and my score. So what? It tells you whether you passed or not. If you pass, you are OK and Happy. But the for the people, who failed, how do they know what the passing score was? If you take PE, FE or other Traffic Engineering exams like in CA or OR, it is not like this, is it? Few years back, if you had CA Traffic Engineer's licence, they gave PTOE certification if you apply. There does not seem to be a standadrd for this test. Something seems to be not correct with PTOE is all that I am saying. Nothing against those passed or failed.

If 50 people take the test and all of them get the passing score, whatever it is set by the board, they all should pass. But with this method, it appears that 30% will always fail. They used to pass 85% a few years back like someoen sadi above. It looks like a money making deal and the certification is more of a presteige and marketing tool for right now, than anything else.