I found this interesting-- is he "practicing engineering"?

J_MEC said:

Sounds a bit extreme to me. I skimmed through some of the letters and he did claim in his letter he is "already doing this kind of work" and even asked them if he could be a member on the state board. That seems to be the only reason the state board is so salty.

Saying he was "practicing engineering" when coming up with his analysis seems like a reach to me. If he was the one setting the timers on these lights based on his calculations then I think maybe the state board might have a leg to stand on when it comes to him "practicing engineering". It sounds to me like he was more acting as a concerned citizen than a practicing engineer. Another vibe I get from this article is that this guy is just salty his wife got a red light ticket and he won't let it go.

Maybe if he approached it as, "Hey, I ran some numbers, and I think there is an issue with the light timing, can you have someone review this?" and instead left out how he is already doing this kind of work (the way he phrased it implies engineering work), the I want to be a board member, and I am an excellent engineer stuff then there would be no beef between him and the state board. 

I can kind of see both why both sides are upset but it still sounds like the whole situation is pretty dumb.

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Dear Mr. Price:
Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N, R10W, Sec 20; Montcalm County

Your certified letter dated 12/17/97 has been handed to me to respond to. You sent out a great deal of carbon copies to a lot of people, but you neglected to include their addresses. You will, therefore, have to send them a copy of my response.

First of all, Mr. Ryan DeVries is not the legal landowner and/or contractor at 2088 Dagget, Pierson, Michigan — I am the legal owner and a couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood “debris” dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, nor authorize, their dam project, I think they would be highly offended you call their skillful use of natural building materials “debris.” I would like to challenge you to attempt to emulate their dam project any dam time and/or any dam place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no dam way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.

As to your dam request the beavers first must fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity, my first dam question to you is: are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers or do you require all dam beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request? If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, please send me completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws annotated.

My first concern is — aren’t the dam beavers entitled to dam legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said dam representation — so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department’s dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event causing dam flooding is proof we should leave the dam Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling them dam names. If you want the dam stream “restored” to a dam free-flow condition — contact the dam beavers — but if you are going to arrest them (they obviously did not pay any dam attention to your dam letter-being unable to read English) — be sure you read them their dam Miranda rights first.

As for me, I am not going to cause more dam flooding or dam debris jams by interfering with these dam builders. If you want to hurt these dam beavers — be aware I am sending a copy of your dam letter and this response to PETA. If your dam Department seriously finds all dams of this nature inherently hazardous and truly will not permit their existence in this dam State — I seriously hope you are not selectively enforcing this dam policy, or once again both I and the Spring Pond Beavers will scream prejudice!

In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their dam unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green, and water flows downstream. They have more dam right than I to live and enjoy Spring Pond. So, as far as I and the beavers are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more dam elevated enforcement action now. Why wait until 1/31/98? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then, and there will be no dam way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then. In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention a real environmental quality (health) problem: bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the dam beavers alone. If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! (The bears are not careful where they dump!) Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office.

Sincerely,
Stephen L. Tvedten

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Dexman PE PMP said:

It appears the problem was not his research into or challenging of the yellow lights. Any normal citizen can do that.The problem is that he was presenting himself as an engineer. In CO you cannot advertise yourself as an engineer for any field that you are not qualified in. It's definitely a gray area there because PE's are not discipline specific.

It's like walking into a medical clinic, saying "I'm a doctor", then start questioning sutures when you're actually an Anesthesiologist. Sure, you can say the sutures are ****, but you can't go walking around saying you know they're **** while under the premise of being a doctor in an unrelated field.

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