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I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but I have heard running friends say that the way to improve times on shorter distances is to run longer distances.

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If you want to gain endurance you can do a few things.

Hills are good. They can help but you must run them several times in a row if you don't have many.

Run with a group. In a group you can do something called an "Indian run." All runners run in a line and the one in the back must run past everyone and get into the front. Just keep repeating that.

Sometimes the best thing to do is to simply run a long slow distance. Maybe just run slow but go for 1.5 or 2 hours. I did that quite a few times in my HS XC days.

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On 1/9/2017 at 10:13 AM, starquest said:

I'm a big fan of Mizuno Wave Riders.   I have had about four pairs now.  

I'm also a fan of Mizuno Wave Riders, I've had a few more than four pairs though. ;)

 

 

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Just now, roadwreck said:

I'm also a fan of Mizuno Wave Riders, I've had a few more than four pairs though. ;)

 

 

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Impressive!    Oh how I miss my pair of yellow WR16's.   Loved everything about that shoe even though I stress fractured in them.  

My last set of WR's were the blue 17's that are in your picture.  I didn't like them at the start, they were such a drastic change from the 16's but I began to love them...so much better than these Brooks Launch's. 

 

I'm assuming those black ones are the new 19's?  How are they? 

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56 minutes ago, starquest said:

I'm assuming those black ones are the new 19's?  How are they? 

Those are actually the 18's (all three pairs). I think the blue and gray pairs are also 18's.  To prevent from going broke buying shoes I wait until the new show comes out and then buy several pairs of the "old model" shoe.  I started wearing the Wave Rider when they were on the 12's and loved those shoes.  The 14's had a smaller toe box which I wasn't a fan of and had to go up half a size.  I think the 15's came out with a bigger toe box, so I dropped back down a half size.  Since then I haven't noticed a lot of variation in the feel of the shoes.  The uppers have changed materials over the years, they have gone with less material which has made the shoes lighter, but to me they still feel the same to run in.  

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1 hour ago, roadwreck said:

I'm also a fan of Mizuno Wave Riders, I've had a few more than four pairs though. ;)

 

 

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and we called VTE a shoe whore!!!  you my good sir are right up there in the same category

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On ‎1‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 11:14 AM, leggo said:

I wish I looked as chill as you do after running a half marathon! My face gets SO pink and ridiculous. Haha!

That was probably 10-15 minutes after I finished.  The boys met me at the end of the "health food" buffet they always set up at the end of races.  Always makes me laugh...tables full of Skittles, Kripsy Kreme donuts and protein/candy bars at the end of a running race.

For the most part, I was always a Brooks guy.  Started on some Ghosts and then switched over to the PureFlows.  I've still got a brand new pair of Hoka Cliftons in the closet that I'll use if I can ever get started again.  They may look clunky, but they're Super comfy and are actually almost as light as my PureFlows.41TqTF9YhXL.jpg

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17 minutes ago, snickerd3 said:

and we called VTE a shoe whore!!!  you my good sir are right up there in the same category

I still contend I only have three pairs of shoes.  A black pair, a brown pair and my running shoes. :P

 

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42 minutes ago, jeb6294 said:

That was probably 10-15 minutes after I finished.  The boys met me at the end of the "health food" buffet they always set up at the end of races.  Always makes me laugh...tables full of Skittles, Kripsy Kreme donuts and protein/candy bars at the end of a running race.

For the most part, I was always a Brooks guy.  Started on some Ghosts and then switched over to the PureFlows.  I've still got a brand new pair of Hoka Cliftons in the closet that I'll use if I can ever get started again.  They may look clunky, but they're Super comfy and are actually almost as light as my PureFlows.41TqTF9YhXL.jpg

I read an article a while back on the affects of the super thick soles on distance running.  There was very strong data correlating increased endurance/comfort/speed when compared to standard and slipper type running shoes.  

 

RW - that collection is nuts.  That said, I'd like to do the same with my Reebok Crossfit shoes to a lesser extent, but when the new model comes out, most places are already purged of my size, even online (10.5/11).

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43 minutes ago, Supe said:

RW - that collection is nuts.  That said, I'd like to do the same with my Reebok Crossfit shoes to a lesser extent, but when the new model comes out, most places are already purged of my size, even online (10.5/11).

Most of those are retired running shoes.  They are only good for around 300 miles of running at which point I get a new pair.  I typically go through 3-4 pairs a year, so when I find a pair on sale I tend to buy multiple pairs at a time (hence the multiples in the same color).  This "collection" was amassed over several years of running, and I was really only wearing a few of these at the time of the picture.  The oldest ones (at the top left) are my yard shoes now.  The newest ones (bottom right) are my current running shoes.  In fact at the time of this picture the two newest pairs hadn't logged a single mile.  The photo was taken prior to donating most of the shoes in between, just to document how much money I've wasted on running shoes. ;)

Then again, I'm sure there are more expensive hobbies. 

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I'm a big time marathoner, and usually end up doing multiple each year. Mostly just Netflix, although sometimes Hulu or Amazon...

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The only thing that's ever worked to increase speed for me is running intervals - running as fast as you can for some set time or distance, then slower to recover, repeat several times.  About 6 years back I was able to run a 21: something 5k after doing intervals for a month ahead of that, as one of my 4 weekly training runs.  The Indian (or more PC - ladder) run is a fun way to do that, if you have a big group.  Running the Hash House Harriers runs can also make you faster, just from the competition/comradery at the front, as well as the frequent changes in pace due to terrain, false trails, etc.  But the beer consumption might negate that.

For me, running longer and slower just makes me run slower.  

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So you'd say you're just really fast, rather than being able to go long and slow? 

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3 minutes ago, csb said:

So you'd say you just really fast, rather than being able to go long and slow? 

The important thing is that he feels good when he's done.

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Each has it's time. :D 

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I either purchase a treadmill from an ad on Craigslist tonight or I've orchestrated my own murder. Either way, it's time to start running again and I'm not riding my bike to the gym. 

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Pick up a cheap smart TV and mount it on the wall in front of the treadmill, so it won't be as miserable an experience.  It's made my running a lot more enjoyable.

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I was looking for a treadmill but ended up getting a Precor commercial grade elliptical from a Gov't auction site.  A lot of the municipalities use it to get rid of stuff so this one came from a rec center.  Threw a bid of $60 in just to get my name in the hat so I'd get notified of the status of the auction and ended up winning it.  There were all the usual fees and stuff though so my final cost ended up being $63.  I was actually shocked how nice it was when we went to pick it up.  It's just like the nice ones they have at the Y.  Already have a spot cleared out in the basement over by the TV so we just have to get it down there now.

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On 1/11/2017 at 9:34 AM, roadwreck said:

I'm also a fan of Mizuno Wave Riders, I've had a few more than four pairs though. ;)

 

 

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That's a beautiful thing...Do the red ones make you go really fast?

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1 hour ago, jeb6294 said:

I was looking for a treadmill but ended up getting a Precor commercial grade elliptical from a Gov't auction site.  A lot of the municipalities use it to get rid of stuff so this one came from a rec center.  Threw a bid of $60 in just to get my name in the hat so I'd get notified of the status of the auction and ended up winning it.  There were all the usual fees and stuff though so my final cost ended up being $63.  I was actually shocked how nice it was when we went to pick it up.  It's just like the nice ones they have at the Y.  Already have a spot cleared out in the basement over by the TV so we just have to get it down there now.

I had an elliptical and I sold it. I despise that motion. 

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On January 11, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Dleg said:

The only thing that's ever worked to increase speed for me is running intervals - running as fast as you can for some set time or distance, then slower to recover, repeat several times.  About 6 years back I was able to run a 21: something 5k after doing intervals for a month ahead of that, as one of my 4 weekly training runs.  The Indian (or more PC - ladder) run is a fun way to do that, if you have a big group.  Running the Hash House Harriers runs can also make you faster, just from the competition/comradery at the front, as well as the frequent changes in pace due to terrain, false trails, etc.  But the beer consumption might negate that.

For me, running longer and slower just makes me run slower.  

Yes.  Intervals is the only thing that worked for me also.   I would run them on the track.  Do one fast lap and then one slow recovery lap; repeat.  I was able to break a 6 min/mile 5k (18:30) ten years ago.  2.5 min slower than my PR in HS. Those days are gone for good I fear.  

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I was looking for a treadmill but ended up getting a Precor commercial grade elliptical from a Gov't auction site.  A lot of the municipalities use it to get rid of stuff so this one came from a rec center.  Threw a bid of $60 in just to get my name in the hat so I'd get notified of the status of the auction and ended up winning it.  There were all the usual fees and stuff though so my final cost ended up being $63.  I was actually shocked how nice it was when we went to pick it up.  It's just like the nice ones they have at the Y.  Already have a spot cleared out in the basement over by the TV so we just have to get it down there now.

Where is this government auction site?

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16 hours ago, jeb6294 said:

I was looking for a treadmill but ended up getting a Precor commercial grade elliptical from a Gov't auction site.  A lot of the municipalities use it to get rid of stuff so this one came from a rec center.  Threw a bid of $60 in just to get my name in the hat so I'd get notified of the status of the auction and ended up winning it.  There were all the usual fees and stuff though so my final cost ended up being $63.  I was actually shocked how nice it was when we went to pick it up.  It's just like the nice ones they have at the Y.  Already have a spot cleared out in the basement over by the TV so we just have to get it down there now.

Hopefully you have at least 8ft ceilings in your basement!   I made that mistake before....

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15 hours ago, csb said:

I had an elliptical and I sold it. I despise that motion. 

I definitely would have preferred a treadmill to work on getting back into running, but hopefully this will at least help get me start to get back in better shape.  For $63, I figure at the very least, I can use it for a while and then sell it for a hefty profit on CL or one of the local "for sale" groups on FB.

 

12 hours ago, Voomie said:

Where is this government auction site?

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I guess you're far enough away I wouldn't have to worry about you swooping in and pirating any good deals. :D I got it from the govdeals.com website.  It's pretty nice, you can do a local search to see all the stuff for sale around you or you can search for something specific, i.e. a treadmill, and it'll show all of them and you can decide if it's worth the drive.

 

47 minutes ago, starquest said:

Hopefully you have at least 8ft ceilings in your basement!   I made that mistake before....

It's a finished basement so there are a few places where they boxed around the ductwork and support beams, but there's a spot next to the stairs with a pretty good view of the TV that I'm thinking should work.

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Good news! I now own a treadmill and I wasn't murdered!

Bad news- I own a treadmill. 

Hopped on and did an incline walk this morning. I have a stair climb coming up, so I need to get my endurance and strength up, along with my comfort level with tasting blood in my mouth. 

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