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passed the pe in nj, dont expect a pay raise,

anyone have any better luck?

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passed the pe in nj, dont expect a pay raise,

anyone have any better luck?

time for a new job.

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Two announces were made today. Botyh guys passed the PE and were promoted to Sr. Engineer with a pay rise of ~10% each one and a 3% more waiting to be effective in March. It pays for some people. It depends on where you are.

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I passed this time and have been told that it will probably not be until August, but it will be 10%

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I got screwed by a few weeks. Accepted a new job ~ Dec 8 and found out three weeks later that I got the PE. However, new employer does not have any "adjustments" for getting the PE. It was awkward to ask for it the second day at new job but I tried.

But, I had to relocate and that was a priority over $$. I did get ~3% due to switching and will have to be happy with that at least for now. Good Luck to rest of you for getting a raise!!

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I finally got a pay raise, but it came from corporate not my office manager.

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pay raise ... LOL

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Raise? What's that? Haven't even heard that term in any other form than "nobodies getting a" in over 3 years.

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Automatic 12% for me.

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I wouldn't ask for one in this economy. Personally, I am just happy to be employed.

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^This is the reply Milton would give.

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I wouldn't ask for one in this economy. Personally, I am just happy to be employed.

It never hurts to try, the worst they'll say is no.

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For all of those that have indicated no raise, I think that is horrible. Being able to acheive an accomplishment such as obtaining your PE license should not be undervalued. You have accomplished something remarkable, please don't let an employer take that away from you. If your current employer does not reward you or thinks having your PE license does not benefit your company, I say leave and find work someplace else.

I work in the consulting industry and while I may be glad to have work, I feel my company is lucky to have me as well. We have locked out raises this year as the economy pitfalls has finally hit our business, but I will still receive a raise, probably around 7%. The point is that having a PE license makes you more valuable, more creditable, and generally more desired. You are billed at a higher rate and have proven your capabilities.

Let's not allow the employers to have all the power, being employed is a give and take relationship. I assume that not a single one of us would leave our families everyday without compensation and face it, we became engineers because we wanted above average compensation. If you allow yourself to be undervalued, it hurts your bank account and the rest of us as well. (Why hire candidate A if candidate B will allow me to pay them less). Be fair, but stick up for what is right!

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For all of those that have indicated no raise, I think that is horrible. Being able to acheive an accomplishment such as obtaining your PE license should not be undervalued. You have accomplished something remarkable, please don't let an employer take that away from you. If your current employer does not reward you or thinks having your PE license does not benefit your company, I say leave and find work someplace else.

I work in the consulting industry and while I may be glad to have work, I feel my company is lucky to have me as well. We have locked out raises this year as the economy pitfalls has finally hit our business, but I will still receive a raise, probably around 7%. The point is that having a PE license makes you more valuable, more creditable, and generally more desired. You are billed at a higher rate and have proven your capabilities.

Let's not allow the employers to have all the power, being employed is a give and take relationship. I assume that not a single one of us would leave our families everyday without compensation and face it, we became engineers because we wanted above average compensation. If you allow yourself to be undervalued, it hurts your bank account and the rest of us as well. (Why hire candidate A if candidate B will allow me to pay them less). Be fair, but stick up for what is right!

Exactly. Your company sure as hell will bill the customer more for your work, so you might as well get a piece. Either way, they're still making money.

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unless you work for a state/federal agency then there are mandated payscales that are not affected by passing tests such as the PE.

I got my exam fees and hotel bill paid. I also got paid for the day I took the test. that's it.

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I wouldn't ask for one in this economy. Personally, I am just happy to be employed.

It never hurts to try, the worst they'll say is no.

I disagree. Actually, 'no' may be the worse they'll say but the worse they'll think is: "What an a-hole. All pay raises have been frozen for two+ years now for every single employee, no cost of living increases, we are on furlough (10% deduction in pay for everyone), there is a hiring freeze, and there have been significant lay-offs - but this guy is asking for a raise". What an a-hole."

But that's just me. Every firm/organization is different. I am just happy to have a job at this current time.

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I wouldn't ask for one in this economy. Personally, I am just happy to be employed.

It never hurts to try, the worst they'll say is no.

I disagree. Actually, 'no' may be the worse they'll say but the worse they'll think is: "What an a-hole. All pay raises have been frozen for two+ years now for every single employee, no cost of living increases, we are on furlough (10% deduction in pay for everyone), there is a hiring freeze, and there have been significant lay-offs - but this guy is asking for a raise". What an a-hole."

But that's just me. Every firm/organization is different. I am just happy to have a job at this current time.

I'm all for job security, but if they're billing your hours at the PE hourly rate then I'd have a problem with them not giving me a cut of that. Otherwise, it's just pure extra profit for them while you're still picking up scraps.

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The bottom line is, the cost of your services (employment) is equal to the amount that the next engineering firm is willing to pay you. There's no formula for "I earned ____ before my PE, I did these tasks, now I have my PE and now my value to the company =___". If you particularly like your company or have a good enough reason to stay, it may be worth working for less money. But to say you're happy where you are or to be scared to ask for a raise so you don't lose your job is absurd. And any company that would say you're an asshole for asking for a raise is absurd.

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The bottom line is, the cost of your services (employment) is equal to the amount that the next engineering firm is willing to pay you. There's no formula for "I earned ____ before my PE, I did these tasks, now I have my PE and now my value to the company =___". If you particularly like your company or have a good enough reason to stay, it may be worth working for less money. But to say you're happy where you are or to be scared to ask for a raise so you don't lose your job is absurd. And any company that would say you're an asshole for asking for a raise is absurd.

They are going to think you are a loser for not asking.

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Pay Cut for me. My wife is staying home with our baby. Although she was going to do that anyway.

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So, finally got my raise. 4%. I can't believe that my employer thought that giving me such a small raise would somehow make me feel okay. I have typically gotten that for a regular annual raise, not for something so significant. Based on my market value in my neck of the woods, I believe that I am worth about 15% more, minimum. I knew my employer would lowball me, but I had thought 7% or so would have been worse case. With only 4%, I'm floored.

Can we say, "Hello Resume". It has been updated and it now has wings. Already sat for one interview with full intentions of sitting for more soon. I just want to be paid fair market value, its not like I am asking to be in the top 10%, average would be fine for now.

Who else is having this problem? Everyone says that you must change employers when you get your PE, that doing so is the only way to get the correct income. I had hoped my employer would be different.

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I work for State Government, got around 7%. Tough to complain considering the hiring and pay increase freeze.

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how much is average salaries for a PE? In private industries (big companies as well mom & pop shop)? In state govt?

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Lets play devils advocate:

It all depends on what you bring to the table for your employer. If your day to day tasks do not change after you get the PE, why should they pay you more? I understand you may be worth more to a new employer, but I dont think company A should pay you more just because company B will, especially if you dont bring anything new to the table.

If you want a raise from your current employer, make yourself more valuable. Take on the responsibility of being a design lead, project manager, take a more involved role with the company. Adding 2 letters to your name is worthless if you just stay a CAD-monkey.

Also, is a PE necessary in your line of work? Some industries and employers dont want and/or require a PE. Look at construction, despite needing a civil degree to get some of the jobs, you are not needed to get your PE to get promoted to superintendent or higher. My first employer (heavy highway contractor) actually discouraged engineers from getting their PE, because it would mean they would leave since the contractor let it be known they wouldnt give pay raises.

Also, what it the current state of your employer and industry? If you work for a land development consultant right now, they may be doing everything they can just to not crash. If there has been a 2+ year pay/hire freeze, how do you think the other employees would feel if you're demanding 10% or more without doing anything new for them?

The company i worked for when i got my PE wasnt able to give an immediate raise because the projects i was working on had me at a contracted EIT rate. My responsibilities didnt change, my company wasnt billing me out for any more, and was actually losing money because they had to add me to their liability insurance. When i talked with my boss after passing, he explained all of this to me and let me know that as soon as we started on a new project i would get a raise (10% raise received 3 months later).

My point: look at the whole picture before you trash your current employer. If after that you still want more (both more $ amd more responsibility), then talk with your boss and explain yourself.

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