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  1. From here (emphasis mine): http://ncees.org/engineering/engineering-scoring/ Licensing exams differ from most other exams. After each administration, every NCEES exam undergoes extensive statistical analysis to determine the minimum level of performance required for entry into the profession... NCEES scans all answer sheets as they are received from the states. A psychometric analysis is performed on a sample of answer sheets from each multiple-choice exam to identify any questions with unusual statistics. These questions are flagged for review. At least two subject-matter experts, who are licensed engineers or surveyors, review the flagged items. In addition, NCEES reviews all examinee comment forms, and the subject-matter experts consider comments on the forms about specific exam questions. If the reviews confirm an error in a question, credit may be given for more than one answer. When the analyses and reviews are completed, NCEES changes the answer keys as necessary. The passing score and final correct answers for each exam are then used to score all the answer sheets. Scanners are calibrated before and during scoring. A percentage of the answer sheets are manually verified, and the results are compared to the machine score to ensure accuracy. How are passing scores determined? When an exam is introduced or when its specifications change, a committee of subject-matter experts works with experienced psychometricians (testing experts with a background in statistics) to determine the level of performance that corresponds with minimal competence in that discipline. This becomes the passing score. NCEES does not publish passing scores because they change with each administration. NCEES scores each exam with no predetermined percentage of examinees that should pass or fail. All exams are scored the same way. First-time takers and repeat takers are graded to the same standard. What is statistical equating? For subsequent administrations of the exam, statistical equating is used to ensure that this level of performance is consistent across multiple administrations of that exam. Essentially, this means that while the numerical passing score may change with each administration, you are not disadvantaged when one administration of a particular exam is more difficult than another. This process accounts for the 8- to 10-week interval between an exam administration and the release of scores to member licensing boards.
  2. NCEES doesn't grade on a curve but does throw out questions that were misleading or incorrect and the cut score does change depending on the difficulty of the exam compared to some benchmark.
  3. Just vertical.
  4. You're like the fourth person to mention this that I've talked to. Something weird going on with some of those questions for sure.
  5. Nope, I still think this will be June. Last 2 April exams released after 54 and 56 days respectively. So that puts us somewhere in the middle of June.
  6. 6/13/2017 based on an average release date time of 53 days.
  7. Ooof, I heard that the 2016 October lateral was just as rough as this years vertical, congrats for passing that on the first try while not feeling confident. I've been getting more feedback from the PPI review course takers and continue to get comments on problems where people felt they had the correct method but didn't have a matching solution listed for the morning. I wonder if we'll get a few questions thrown out for this exam due to being misleading or otherwise having a high amount of incorrect answers? It also definitely appears that NCEES is possibly in a shift toward topics that are either "trick" questions (ones where small exceptions or caveats make a difference) or problems that differ from the typical study topics (such as in the practice exams, SERM, etc.). Either way, when NCEES does their statistics the "cut score" for this exam should be lowered if it was indeed more difficult than past exams. Good news there at least. Also, to add to Bama's, there's been a number of other SE exam takers who have thought for sure they failed the exam but got passing scores in their inbox 6 weeks later. Obviously cautious pessimism is best to avoid any huge disappointments, but don't start studying for another attempt just yet; you've probably all done better on the exam than you give yourself credit for.
  8. Folks, edit your posts. You're straying a bit close to NDA territory there. NCEES does check this forum.
  9. I'm hearing a wide variety of comments back from people in the PPI review course. Some people felt this was easier than October, but based on the responses I'm going to guess it's about the same if not worse. The most common theme I'm hearing is everyone has mentioned how they saw problems with unexpected topics. Looks like this exam really threw people a bunch of curve balls.
  10. Good luck with this final week of studying.
  11. StructuralVFL, since you're doing the OnDemand you don't have access to the PPI forums. Give me a shout out via PM if you have any questions. If I get the time I'll see if I can summarize some of the things we've brought up this current course.
  12. Always check your errata, many problems have (hopefully) already been found and reported.
  13. An interesting thought, perhaps you're right.
  14. Agreed with the above. They use r_avg = 2.66 in to calculate h/r = 54.1. Then An = 40.7 in^2/ft x 4 ft = 162.8 in^2. The solution has An = 161 in^2 so slightly different but close enough. Then they calculate Pa per the MSJC. Everyone definitely needs a copy of TEK 14-01B in their exam notes.
  15. Good info (though unfortunate how you came about it).