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Taking survey and seismic before 2 years of experience
popskiller replied to Civilmili's topic in CA-Seismic/Survey Exams
I don't think the board will make a special exception to you since then they would have to provide this to everyone. It's only one more year though. You can study and prepare yourself for both exams thoroughly and get all your forms together so that once you hit that two year mark you can sit for your tests in the next quarter and get your license as quick as possible. -
I took the ppi2pass enviro prep. and failed....most of what he covers was not applicable to last April’s enviro PE exam, in my opinion. I used EET civil/WRE prep and passed. Nazrul Islam with EET is orders of magnitude better that ppi2pass.....plus the binders you get with EET are worth their weight in gold.
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I took the civil construction test in October and passed, after failing the Structural exam in April. I'm one of many who's career doesn't fall well into a category and made the decision to refocus and went with EET. I thought EET's breadth section was okay; I took that one as the on-demand. The binder was useful, but I did find myself going back and forth between that and the CERM for my morning session. I had plenty of experience with my breadth study from the previous go-around and scored well on it for the first test. The afternoon binder from EET was invaluable and the course was great. It covered material that the CERM doesn't even mention. I took those classes in the webinar because I had the time (single/no kids) and because I am the type who needs to ask questions to make sure I actually understand what I'm doing. Sometimes I fall victim to being able to follow along well, but not replicate. Something to consider is the time of the course. I'm on the east coast and the classes started at 8pm for me, but that meant 5pm start time for west coast. Bearing the schedule in mind might help you make a decision depending on where you're located and what time your specific courses start.
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hm it has been a couple weeks and still haven't heard back for the approval of my seismic re-file application.. but I think they'll just let me know about the prometric authorization soon..
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Taking survey and seismic before 2 years of experience
krisEng replied to Civilmili's topic in CA-Seismic/Survey Exams
I don't think there is a way to submit your application/be approved to take the surveying and seismic exams early. If there was, I would have taken it as soon as I passed the PE exam. 😕 I found this link too: -
I just contacted the board and they said we should be hearing back starting at the beginning of this week!
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On NCEES' website, they give you the passing rates and the number of people of first time test takers and repeat takers for each exam. You can then figure the overall passing rate for your exam.
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I got my results, and I FAILED! Lol. I deserve it. I can’t blame anything or anyone but myself. Truly. Time to readjust my study form. power electronics and Protection were the topics that did me in. My score was 42/80. I am in Texas so my scaled score was 64. it seems that 48/80 would have been a scaled score of 70 and a passing grade. Everyone here that were in the mid to high 40’s you were close. So, there’s consolation in that. thoughts moving forward: Read Blackburn cover to cover. Search the internet for anything about protective relay basics. Get the pdf and print IEEE Buff book and IEEE Green book. I’ll say this. This time around we have the advantage in that we won’t waste time studying from the official NCEES practice exam. What a joke that is, am I right?! Lol Also search the internet and print articles from NCEES specifications topics such as insulation testing and Battery characteristics and ratings, etc....
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I also got my approval on 11/20/2018 and still waiting for the prometric authorization. Do you guys know how much time they take to send out those authorizations? NikR, keep us posted if you get you prometric authorization.
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So I just found out I passed the October 2018 Civil Construction PE exam and I am now looking to sell all of my materials. This was my first time taking the exam and I wanted to make sure that it was my last so I studied my butt off and bought everything that I could possibly determine as valuable. I took the PPI course as well and did countless hours of practice problems. I by no means think that I am smarter than anyone and there is no telling how many "educated guesses" I was away from failing, but I do credit my success (luck or not) to having so many references and taking countless practice exams. I am wanting to sell everything together and would be willing to part with it for $900. I think this is a fair price being as that you would get $2300 worth of value. The only other book you would need to get would be the Steel Manual, but it is often good to purchase that and keep for yourself. I would be willing to send some documents that contain some other valuable materials that helped me. The key to passing is repetition and knowing where to look. Let me know if you would like to buy or make me an offer.
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Genuine question; where do you find that metric or breakdown? It'd be super useful to use to explain to non-engineer friends just how hard this was for me! I passed (NY) the second time around after failing structural in the spring and realizing that was a dead end for me.
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You have some excellent points and I certainly appreciate the input from an academic perspective. I do have a few items I would like to add though. 1) I didn't necessarily mean an MS is needed to take the PE. I meant a young structural engineer is not adequately trained and cannot demonstrate a minimal competency for an engineering license without the addition of more classes than are currently taught at a BS level (semantics, I know). This may not be the case with all disciplines but from my perspective, the Civil Structural exam personifies many of the topics you've discussed. First and foremost, the exam has nothing to do with putting a building together, but more about solving simple statics, indeterminate, materials, and design problems. It brings to mind exactly what you described as "students not knowing a beam is something more than a line on a circle and a triangle." I don't recall seeing any questions concerning complex system design on this exam. 2) I think an accelerated 5 year MS would be an excellent compromise. I don't think students should have to toil away forever to pursue their career but I do expect ALL of our hires to have some understanding of the 4 main construction materials (wood, steel, concrete, and masonry). Though it could be argued that masonry is similar to concrete on the LRFD design side, new employees are going to struggle and frustrate me without an in depth understanding of at least concrete. More often than not, BS grads barely understand how to design concrete columns due to the interaction of axial and bending loads. 3) I would argue that finite element analysis understanding is imperative for 2 reasons. First, I do not want to be teaching new hires finite element methods. Second, I don't want my engineers using finite element programs without understanding how they work. 4) The steel professor probably needs to split his material across 2 classes. Not only could he cover the valuable material you described, but he could add even more like gusset connections and special seismic detailing. This would be perfect for the 5 year MS program. It would also prepare grads for the SE exam. I was poorly prepared for special seismic detailing due to performing all of my engineering on the east coast out of high seismic areas. 5) Wood design is the most different from the other materials due to its anisotropic properties. This is not something I want to spend my time teaching new hires either. I already have my hands full with metal studs, aluminum, and more in depth design with the common materials. 6) I agree that students are sorely lacking in critical thinking skills. I would disagree this is solely academia's fault. To some extent it may be due to the fact that academia does not cull enough students, but my take on this is generational. I believe the lack of critical thinking skills is largely due to a fear of failure. Young college grads are afraid to try anything they don't fully understand due to their sheltered upbringing and parents not instilling basic societal knowledge into their children. In other words, "It's OK to fail as long as you learn from it and not everyone gets a trophy." Again, I appreciate the feedback and rather than continue to post my gripes I am going to list off what I believe to be the most important classes to young structural grads (obviously beyond the math courses required to understand these concepts). 1)Statics 2)Mechanics of materials - basic indeterminate structures 3)Structural Analysis - indeterminate structural analysis methods such as moment distribution, integration method, Bernoulli and Timoshenko beam theory, etc... 3)Wood/timber design - incorporating shear walls, connections, lateral torsional buckling, and basic column design 4)Steel design - incorporating all of the items mentioned in your post and adding special seismic detailing at a minimum 5)Concrete design - incorporating shear walls, beams, T-beams, torsion, shear, punching shear, slabs, interactions at column/beam joints, and special seismic detailing. 6)Masonry design - basic column, pilaster, beam, and shear design while incorporating special seismic detailing. 7)Finite element methods - at least a basic understanding of how stiffness matrices are constructed and solved given the different end restraints. These items would produce a perfect hire for me right out of college but sadly much less than half of this knowledge is present in graduates with a BS degree and many with an MS lack a significant portion of these qualities. Given the current restrictions upon academia, I don't see how the above items could be covered in a satisfactory manner without the addition of at least a 5 year accelerated MS program.
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October 2018 - Funny Exam Stories
ChebyshevII replied to txjennah PE's topic in Anything about the PE Exam
In Spokane, WA for the October 2018 PE exam, someone forgot to silence their cell phone before placing it at the amnesty table. Suddenly I heard really loud laughter through my earplugs. It was Crazy Train. Luckily I didn’t see anyone get escorted... -
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Hello All, A little help would be appreciated on this one. In the Complex Imaginary Test, Morning Session, Question 5 (the one through iBooks) the question asks about the fault current after a switch is thrown. The circuit shows an inductor on the source side of the switch. I went to solve this problem believing that this should be an instantaneous switch (there is no indication components are not ideal) and the fault would also occur immediately following the switch being thrown. I recalled form my basic college courses that current cannot change instantaneously in an inductor. However the answer is given by way of circuit analysis including the downstream resistor. Was this an improper assumption?
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Taking survey and seismic before 2 years of experience
Civilmili posted a topic in CA-Seismic/Survey Exams
Hi all I just passed the pe exam in October, but I still need a year of experience before I meet the two year requirement. I tried registering for the survey and seismic exam online but it says you need a candidate number to register for the test. Does anyone know if I can submit my application to the board or know of a way I can get get approved to take survey and seismic early? - Yesterday
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my throat hurts from yelling so much during the 1pm games. also one of my colts insta followers DM'd me a heart before the game (after I wished him luck) so you can say we're getting pretty serious.
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v fair.
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October 2018 - Funny Exam Stories
inner peace replied to txjennah PE's topic in Anything about the PE Exam
Glad you passed!. Looks like we found the rituals of passing this exam. Ha ha. -
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Wow - I fedexed my first-time application 10/6 and was emailed 12/4 that the application was referred to technical review. Maybe less applicants in your last name range?
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I just passed the PE Power exam (First time) and I am interested to sell my books. Please call me or leave me a message on my cellphone: (714) 864 2641 1: Complex Imaginary (4 Sets) 2: Power Reference Manual for the Electrical and Computer PE Exam new Edition (by John A. Camara PE I) 3: NCEES PE Electrical and Computer Engineering: Power Practice Exam 4: Power Practice Problems and Exams for the Electrical and Computer PE Exam Second Edition (John A. Camara PE ) 5: Spin-Up for the Electrical and Computer Engineering PE Exam (Power): Cory Lanza PE 6:National Electrical Safety Code (NESC) 2012 Handbook (Mcgraw Hill's…David J. Marne) 7:Power System Analysis and Design 5th Edition by Glover Mulukutla (Author) + solution manual 8: Brightwood PE Electrical and Electronics Review Manual & Problem And Solutions 9: Mike Holts NEC books (2) + 80 questions for PE exam 10: PE power binder (Concepts and theories that do not exist in Power PE reference ). 11 : Justin kauwale guide : Technical study guide 12: Power protection system : 40 questions plus solutions typical to the board exam
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Hello and welcome to EB.com. Please post items for sale in the following forum: http://engineerboards.com/forum/11-yard-sale/ Thanks!
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I just passed the PE Power exam (First time) and I am interested to sell my books. Please call me or leave me a message on my cellphone: 714 864 2641 1: Complex Imaginary (4 Sets) 2: Power Reference Manual for the Electrical and Computer PE Exam Second Edition (by John A. Camara PE (Author)) 3: NCEES PE Electrical and Computer Engineering: Power Practice Exam 4: Power Practice Problems and Exams for the Electrical and Computer PE Exam Second Edition (John A. Camara PE ) 5: Spin-Up for the Electrical and Computer Engineering PE Exam (Power): Cory Lanza PE 6:National Electrical Safety Code (NESC) 2012 Handbook (Mcgraw Hill's…David J. Marne 7:Power System Analysis and Design, Fifth EditionJ. Duncan Glover 8: Brightwood PE Electrical and Electronics Review Manual & Problem And Solutions 9: Mike Holts NEC books (2) + 80 questions for PE exam 10: PE power binder (Concepts and theories that do not exist in Power PE reference ). 11 : Justin kauwale guide : Technical study guide 12: Power protection system : 40 questions plus solutions typical to the board exam
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Still no email, but did receive the physical copy of the certificate and notification letter this weekend. I will update whenever we do finally receive the email for South Dakota.
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In before the lock.... oh wait.
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Failed Oct 2018 PE Construction , its not over until I win .
invu replied to Wahsh's topic in Anything about the PE Exam
Just an FYI, the Civil Engineering Reference Manual is a good manual to have with you while taking the Civil PE exam.
